Hundreds of psychiatrists diagnosed Trump as having Malignant NPD. If the Administration got sick of him, who enacts the 25th? When? How?

Is it 2029 yet?

eclipsenow said:

It's so self evident that having allowed Trump to even RUN as a candidate in the first place is a violation of the 25th and therefore the best intentions of your constitution.

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There is no "violation" of the 25th Amendment in allowing any living person to remain President or to run for President. In the first place, the 25th Amendment only applies to someone who is President, so obviously it says nothing about someone running for President. But even after becoming President, they could literally be permanently comatose--an instance where pretty much everyone agrees the 25th Amendment would be proper to invoke--and allowing them to remain President would not be a violation of the 25th Amendment. This is because, as is obvious if one reads it, the 25th Amendment creates the opportunity, but not any requirement, to remove the President from office.

Also, if Biden wasn't removed under the 25th Amendment, then Trump shouldn't (at least for now). Even if one thinks Trump is doing a bad job, he is doing the job, which seems to have been less the case with Biden (though I don't think using the 25th Amendment against him would have been right either--a case like Woodrow Wilson seems more proper, but of course he was President before the 25th Amendment was ever passed).

The jokes on the so called psychiatrists. President Trump has had numerous cognitive tests that he aces every time in addition to CT scans and an MRI. This trumps the mind reader doctors diagnosing the president from TV images.

eclipsenow said:

So you know the political ideology of all these professional mental health experts?
Interesting. That's quite the super-power you've got there mate!


Generally speaking - he was. He has a lifelong battle with stuttering. Sometimes his sentences trailed off a bit because he used circumlocution to avoid a 'feared word'. A word that might trigger his stuttering. But oh how Fox Propaganda Outlet LOVED to copy and paste examples of that out of context so you could not figure out what he was talking about - and then claim "Mad! Demented! Senile..." or whatever.

The moment you popped it back into context - it became clear.
Fox gotta agit prop for the NPD I guess.


Wow! Dude, your nation has lost so much respect because of this Malignant NPD.
He's a disordered man, and there's no curing it.
His petty tanty's are straight NPD, and he is trying to use it to harness the 'strong man' image when he's actually really fragile inside.

It seems to have worked on you.
Demagogue's play on the need some have for a 'saviour' - a macho guy that will fix a complex world.
Well, sorry, but I have some sad news for you.
The world IS complex! Trump charges around like a bull in a China shop - and people wonder why everything ends up broken?


Um, no. As a Christian myself, I'm fairly socially conservative. But that's my own morals. I like living in a tolerant society. I'm not out to force everyone else to change their ways at the point of a sword! Please show me where Paul commends the ROMAN government for defending MORALS? Romans 13 is about severe law breaking - murder, etc. But the Romans were notoriously sexually immoral - and yet Paul calls them "God's servants to do you good." It's about maintaining some sort of law and order, and peace.

If attacking gender theory is your main criteria for voting - can I suggest you lift your game in two ways?
First - research and write articles about it. Write to universities about it. Professors of psychiatry. Etc. Maybe listen to some Christian podcasts about church people suffering gender dysphoria. It's a real psychological condition that does not respond to treatment as easily as - say - a fear of flying.

Second - lift your political vision to be more holistic! That is ONE pet issue you appear to have, where voting is about the WHOLE of society. Trump is stirring up trouble with ICE and CAUSING the very chaos he wants. Why? Attention. Then he can blame it all on the "Radical socialist left", and send in MORE ICE or troops! Do you like the fact that this man actually defends outright murder by that ICE agent?

What about the economy? Tariffs? What about welfare standards for the poor? What about national security? The NATO alliance. What about how America treats the 'alien' - migrants desperately fleeing so their REMAINING daughters are not sold into sexual slavery? What about compassion?

What has Trump DONE to the American church?

Most of the world’s churches disagree with this strange new form of Christian nationalism growing in America. The "American Evangelical" is now branded as a red-hat MAGA storming the Capitol and holding a prayer service before charging in looking for someone to murder!
Many of us are debating whether we should even keep the label 'evangelical’ given the harshness of American Evangelical politics. It's NOT a good look! One of the world’s most influential Christian podcasts covers this very theme.
American Evangelical

According to historian and theologian Dr John Dickson our tools are NOT political power, but “Persuasion, Prayer, Service and Suffering.” That is the direct opposite of today’s false Prosperity and Power gospel of the American Evangelical. Please, listen to these 2 podcasts.
Political Jesus

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Anyone who has worked with dementia patients could spot all the symptoms in Biden a mile away. The fact that you still parrot the propaganda that Biden was sharp takes away any credit you might have.

eclipsenow said:

This is your "GREAT LEADER!"

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Wow, this guy really has an unhealthy and unhinged hatred of the elected President of the United States. Random venom spewing with every word against the President. He should be seen by medical professionals before he ends up buying a weapon and following up on his unhinged delusional rants. He should also be taken off the air before his words influence his followers to act on his hate filled rhetoric against the President. We have seen how they are resorting to violence at every turn.

eclipsenow said:

So you know the political ideology of all these professional mental health experts?
Interesting. That's quite the super-power you've got there mate!

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It is my area of study academically. So I do have some knowledge. I have also worked in various roles supporting the most disadvantages in society including mental illness. I know a narcissist when I see one. Trump ain't a narcissist. Much of what he supports is also supported by others.

eclipsenow said:

Generally speaking - he was. He has a lifelong battle with stuttering. Sometimes his sentences trailed off a bit because he used circumlocution to avoid a 'feared word'. A word that might trigger his stuttering. But oh how Fox Propaganda Outlet LOVED to copy and paste examples of that out of context so you could not figure out what he was talking about - and then claim "Mad! Demented! Senile..." or whatever.

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Man this fixation on every minute detail of Trump is a cognitive disorder itself. We could pull apart anyone and start spectulating about their inner thoughts. But this is typical of identity politics. It attacks the person and tries to discredit them. Rather than the actual lived reality.

eclipsenow said:

The moment you popped it back into context - it became clear.
Fox gotta agit prop for the NPD I guess.

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But the reality is the exact opposite. There is no dictatorship, he is not Hitler, democracy has not crashed, the economy has not crashed. Trump has done more than Biden or presidents before him.

The US is seeing crime significantly come down, fruad exposed and stopped, Cartels imposting poison killing Americans stopped. A dictator taken out, Irans capability taken out and people are rising up against the dictatorship. Investment coming in, local industry and jobs are being created.

It is surely not all that bad.

eclipsenow said:

Wow! Dude, your nation has lost so much respect because of this Malignant NPD.
He's a disordered man, and there's no curing it.
His petty tanty's are straight NPD, and he is trying to use it to harness the 'strong man' image when he's actually really fragile inside.

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What is NPD. Is that narcissist disorder. You seem fixated on making Trump a narcissist. He has been called everything under the sun. I think he was called a fascist and Nazi as well. A dictator like Maduro. Yet he is freeing people from dictators. If thats what narcissists do then thats good.

eclipsenow said:

It seems to have worked on you.
Demagogue's play on the need some have for a 'saviour' - a macho guy that will fix a complex world.
Well, sorry, but I have some sad news for you.
The world IS complex! Trump charges around like a bull in a China shop - and people wonder why everything ends up broken?

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Yes this is what the Left does. They start to attack those who may agree with Trump by extension. Not only is Trump made out to be a narcissist or fascist or Nazi. By the same logic they are forced to then demean those who agree with Trump. Making out they have been fooled and are deluded from the real truth they hold.

eclipsenow said:

Um, no. As a Christian myself, I'm fairly socially conservative. But that's my own morals. I like living in a tolerant society. I'm not out to force everyone else to change their ways at the point of a sword!

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Who said anything about using a sword. No one is using a sword. What is tolerance. If people s rights or moral opinions clash who do we tolerate and who do we put second. You can allow them both to have equal right at the same time if one sides rights deny the other.

So tolerance and morals are subjective. So how do we determine the truth.

eclipsenow said:

Please show me where Paul commends the ROMAN government for defending MORALS? Romans 13 is about severe law breaking - murder, etc. But the Romans were notoriously sexually immoral - and yet Paul calls them "God's servants to do you good." It's about maintaining some sort of law and order, and peace.

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I am not sure what your point is. What about laws around social issues. Did not the Romans also force the Christians to bow down to their gods or be executed.

Paul also says to pray for the rulers that they may be saved and be God fearing

eclipsenow said:

If attacking gender theory is your main criteria for voting - can I suggest you lift your game in two ways?
First - research and write articles about it. Write to universities about it. Professors of psychiatry. Etc. Maybe listen to some Christian podcasts about church people suffering gender dysphoria. It's a real psychological condition that does not respond to treatment as easily as - say - a fear of flying.

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I already know. As I mentioned I have extensively studied this and have worked in the industry for decades. But like I also said you don't need to be a brain surgeon to know lived reality.

The lived reality is yes there are mental disorders like gender and body dysphoria and even a hormonal basis to some degree. But none of this changes the reality that a man can become a women.

This actually threatens real women. How do you accommodate both beliefs. Does God create such a conflict. I don't think so. I think its when people defy Gods law and natural order that things become chaos.

In fact the idea that men can become women and visa versa and can cut off and remodel their bodies to fit their beliefs. Is literally playing with Gods creation and acting like a god. That humans can know better and be like God and recreate his creation in their own image.

eclipsenow said:

Second - lift your political vision to be more holistic! That is ONE pet issue you appear to have, where voting is about the WHOLE of society.

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I try not toi vote fullstop. I got away with it for 20 years by living in another nation and then going off the grid lol. I don't like todays politics. Its all about identity politics. No matter what you say it always ends up with back and forth demeaning jibes at each other. Trying to discredit theother. Its all tribal.

eclipsenow said:

Trump is stirring up trouble with ICE and CAUSING the very chaos he wants. Why? Attention.

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Actually no. The same polcies in other States has been applied and there has been no issues. Its only in these sanctuary States and cities where theres a more radical resistence.

Its actually leaders like Waltz who are causing the chaos. He has caused enough damage.

eclipsenow said:

Then he can blame it all on the "Radical socialist left", and send in MORE ICE or troops! Do you like the fact that this man actually defends outright murder by that ICE agent?

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See there you go accusing people of murder and spreading false narratives. This is what is causing the uprise in violence I think.

eclipsenow said:

What about the economy? Tariffs? What about welfare standards for the poor? What about national security? The NATO alliance. What about how America treats the 'alien' - migrants desperately fleeing so their REMAINING daughters are not sold into sexual slavery? What about compassion?

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I think the Trump adminsitration has saved 62,000 children from dangerous situations like sex and cross border trafficking. That was last year. I think they have already saved another 7,000 this year.

eclipsenow said:

What has Trump DONE to the American church?

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For one he is prosecuting activists who terrorise worshippers including traumatising children as part of their protests. I don't care what religion Trump is.

If he is upholding the freedom to worship as people want. As Christians want and have the right. Then that is a good thing. Especially in a time when activists are now willing to attach churches and disrupt them.

eclipsenow said:

Most of the world’s churches disagree with this strange new form of Christian nationalism growing in America. The "American Evangelical" is now branded as a red-hat MAGA storming the Capitol and holding a prayer service before charging in looking for someone to murder!

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What like the Nigerian priest who cried out for help to the world, to the UN and to Trump. To stop Christian genocide in Nigeria. Trump was the only one who responded. I don't care what the hypocritical church leaders think.

This is good what Trump did to send a message to these evil people who terrorise innocents and especially Christians. That they just can't get away with it any longer. The world will not accept this evil being pushed onto it.

eclipsenow said:

Many of us are debating whether we should even keep the label 'evangelical’ given the harshness of American Evangelical politics. It's NOT a good look! One of the world’s most influential Christian podcasts covers this very theme.
American Evangelical

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I don't know your political and religious mix in the US. I know religion has being politicised by both sides.

But lets take a step back with all this false narrative. Trump is not a Christian Nationalist. He not even really a full conservative. Neither are many of his team. A few are democrates or X democrates. Trump won support from non traditional conservative demographics. Trump is more middle of the road and thats why he is a populaist.

I actually think other nations thank Trump to help develop peace deals and getting rid of dictators and think he is doing a good thing. Is actually putting into action changes that is bringing about getting rid of evil and giving people hope.

The true elected president of Venezuela María Corina Machado offered to share her 2025 Nobel Peace Prize with Trump because she felt his action would greatly help her nations peace and freedom. Come on he deserves some credit.

eclipsenow said:

According to historian and theologian Dr John Dickson our tools are NOT political power, but “Persuasion, Prayer, Service and Suffering.” That is the direct opposite of today’s false Prosperity and Power gospel of the American Evangelical. Please, listen to these 2 podcasts.
Political Jesus

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I agree. Neither side is for Christ. No world political power is for Christ.

I actually think as in the early church Christ church should have nothing to do with politics and the culture war. They should stay on the sidelines and be a seperate entity not like all the identities within the culture war. Which includes the many waring denominations.

Christ church should be a light on a hill in the darkness of the world. The only message should be the gospel fullstop. Not creating a world political kingdom.

stevevw said:

Trump has done more than Biden or presidents before him.

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It's the comments like this that makes the lunatics on the left say that MAGA is a cult, but it is supported by both history and documented proof that every other president pails in comparison to Donald Trump and they fall well below his accomplishments.

stevevw said:

Trump ain't a narcissist.

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That statement is along the lines of "the Earth isn't a glob, it's flat". It's so obviously false that I'm astonished that anyone would say it. Now, if you were to say that it's not malignant, we could have a good debate about that but saying he's not a narcissist at all is just silly. There's nothing really wrong with being a narcissist anyway. It's a common trait among politicians.

stevevw said:

Much of what he supports is also supported by others.

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That's irrelevant to being a narcissist.

Aryeh Jay said:

It's the comments like this that makes the lunatics on the left say that MAGA is a cult, but it is supported by both history and documented proof that every other president pails in comparison to Donald Trump and they fall well below his accomplishments.

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And its not being partisan either. It is just acknowledging a reality. Like him or hate him he has done some astonishing things from what I have seen in the past 30 years.

But he hasn't done anything great in the sense that it takes brains. Its just commonsense. Like shutting down the border and tightening immigration. Every president has supported the policy. Trump actually did it. The Dems objected that Trump did not capture Maduro and put a bounty on his head. Trump followed through with actually doing it.

MOst of what has happened has been supported and earmarked to be dealt with as a pending issue. Trump just has a way of getting it done. I think thats the business side that helps negociate or manipulate things to happen.

I don't agree with some of what Trump is doing. I will support a Dem or in my nation 'Labor' if they are worthy and have good policies. Both parties have their strengths and weaknesses.

But I really hestitate to vote for any politician. I don't fully trust them and they are not for Christ by the fact that world governments are driven by world politics and ideologies. They are in bed with the world and have a vested interest in it.

Robban said:

Like a juggler with too many balls in the air at the same time, it is a possibility to drop one or two.

Venezuela, Panama, Canada, Greenland, what more, it is not easy to keep up.

What is the hurry? It is like there is no tomorrow.

But we shall see what we shall see.

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I agree. Trump governs like there is no tomorrow, maybe that is true?

eclipsenow said:

He's not their patient.

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Agreed.

eclipsenow said:

He's just FREAKING THEM OUT with his MNPD.

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Their diagnosis of someone not actually their patient. Why are they diagnosing someone who is not their patient?

eclipsenow said:

Nope - I covered that.

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You have spoken. Does that conclude the matter? In your mind, I suppose so.

eclipsenow said:

In fact - if you had been paying attention to the copious articles that came out about this - they covered that.
NPD is the one condition that shows up more reliably from thousands of hours of public footage than many dozens of client interviews.

As I said, Ai from 2015 could detect NPD better than professional interviews.

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I don't give a rip what some AI does. AI can have hallucinations too. Or mislead. Or even promote suicides.

eclipsenow said:

On the one hand you want to complain that he's not their patient, and on the other apply patient confidentiality standards?
Make up your mind.

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My mind is not the problem here. He's not their patient. They are diagnosing him while he is not their patient. And they are releasing their diagnoses without patient permission. You think that's just fine.

eclipsenow said:

But - no. When it's a question of national security, they have a DUTY to speak out!

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A supposed and rather ill defined 'question of national security' trumps HIPAA laws?

eclipsenow said:

Again - not their patient.
Make up your mind.

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My mind is still not the problem here. He is not their patient. They should not be making diagnoses of someone not their patient and then releasing confidential medical information without the permission of the patient they have diagnosed. If they want to have some humble personal opinion of the president, who cares. But making public a professional medical diagnostic opinion of a patient they have not clinically examined and who has not consented to be their patient and has not consented to making their medical diagnosis public appears to be a breach of medical ethics. Just sayin'. Maybe that's OK where you are from.

Richard T said:

I agree. Trump governs like there is no tomorrow, maybe that is true?

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If only we knew but we don`t, was thinking today, I paid my rent for Febuary not knowing if I will be alive to see tomorrow even,

never mind Febuary.

One thing to be thankful for is having the money to pay the rent.

RileyG said:

Was Trump's niece his official psychiatrist? Is what she doing considered unethical? Until we get an official diagnosis from Trump's own lips- I don't think anyone can say he legally's been diagnosed with NPD.

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I think it’s fair to say Trump is highly unlikely out a Psychiatric diagnosis for himself, or ever admit to it if he did. People can observe over a decade of his public behavior and read the traits of NPD and draw their own conclusions.