Man shot by federal agents in Minneapolis has died, police chief tells CNN. DHS says suspect was armed

DaisyDay · Sunday at 12:26 PM

BPPLEE said:
I think I have seen it. I don't know how you are drawing those conclusions though I just see chaos.
At any rate ICE should suspend operations there and let things cool off

If you had seen it, you wouldn't be confused as it was quite clear, in slo-mo.

BPPLEE · Sunday at 12:26 PM

GoldenBoy89 said:
That would be what I would expect out of a responsible agency and administration not interested in further politicizing and fanning the flames.

Do you think that’s what we’ll see out of this one?

No

GoldenBoy89 · Sunday at 12:27 PM

FreeinChrist said:
Yes, it is a pattern. Do something bad and then do not take responsibility and attack the victim. It is so vile.

And some Christians cheer this. Those who cheer it make Christianity look terrible.

This makes anyone cheering this on look terrible. I get the Christian perspective but what about just from a human standpoint?

How have so many people so easily abandoned their humanity?

Danthemailman · Sunday at 12:28 PM

Desk trauma said:
Anything said prior to saying but does not matter.

So responsibility and common sense does not matter?

Desk trauma · Sunday at 12:34 PM

Danthemailman said:
So responsibility and common sense does not matter?

Nothing you said prior to the but in the post I quoted matters and was a waste of time to post.

Danthemailman · Sunday at 12:36 PM

comana said:
When did he approach any agents? I see a man with his phone out recording and agents approach him. You can see him back away with both hands visible but the agent stays in his face. When he tries to assist a woman an agent has shoved to the ground he is pepper sprayed in the face over and over again before multiple agents tackle him to the ground. On the ground I don’t see resistance as much as defense against agents beating him, one with the pepper sprayed can beating him in the head. All of the aggression and violence is initiated by ICE agents.

That's not what I saw in the video but believe as you wish. The narrative seems to be fixed for certain folks based on their political beliefs. America continues to move in a very dangerous direction and sadly, I just don't see things getting any better. Not until Jesus returns. ✝️

FreeinChrist · Sunday at 12:37 PM

essentialsaltes said:
Until earlier this month, these matters would be handled by joint investigations, as obviously both federal and state laws may have been violated. Minnesota has jurisdiction over itself.

That is correct. Until Trump and Noem and this tyrannical behavior by ICE, investigations included more than one agency.

It appears that the Trump administration want to hide the facts. They are not transparent at all.

FreeinChrist · Sunday at 12:40 PM

Danthemailman said:
So responsibility and common sense does not matter?

Ask that of the ICE agents. They are irresponsible and lack common sense. There was no call to murder that man.

The Barbarian · Sunday at 12:42 PM

Pretty much the same thing. "Yes he had a permit to carry the weapon, but he was asking to be shot by doing it."

Postvieww said:
I never said that!

You didn't kill him, either. But that's the story we're getting from ICE. Just like blaming the victim for her rape, because of the way she was dressed.

Danthemailman · Sunday at 12:45 PM

FreeinChrist said:
Ask that of the ICE agents. They are irresponsible and lack common sense. There was no call to murder that man.

Ultimately, that's not up to you to decide.

The Barbarian · Sunday at 12:46 PM

FreeinChrist said:
It appears that the Trump administration want to hide the facts. They are not transparent at all.

We're seeing desperate attempts to hide facts from Americans in a variety of things. The killings in Minneapolis, Trump's involvement with Epstein, the findings in Jack Smith's investigation. It's notable that republican congressmen wanting to prosecute the Clintons for refusing to testify in secret, have slowed the process, when it became clear that any such prosecution would result in the evidence being made public.

The Barbarian · Sunday at 12:46 PM

Danthemailman said:
Ultimately, that's not up to you to decide.

That will be the call of a grand jury in Minnesota.

Desk trauma · Sunday at 12:55 PM

The Barbarian said:
That will be the call of a grand jury in Minnesota.

How optimistic.

Postvieww · Sunday at 12:55 PM

The Barbarian said:
Pretty much the same thing. "Yes he had a permit to carry the weapon, but he was asking to be shot by doing it."

You didn't kill him, either. But that's the story we're getting from ICE. Just like blaming the victim for her rape, because of the way she was dressed.

You seem to ignore the whole sequence of events. First he did go to a “peaceful “ protest without his sign. He did interfere with law enforcement’s interaction with a woman. He did get in face of law enforcement in an aggressive manner. He did violently resist arrest while being armed. By any sane manner of thinking that is a recipe for disaster, and his choices did lead to disaster. Keep defending this type of insanity if you wish.

Postvieww · Sunday at 12:58 PM

The Barbarian said:
We're seeing desperate attempts to hide facts from Americans in a variety of things. The killings in Minneapolis, Trump's involvement with Epstein, the findings in Jack Smith's investigation. It's notable that republican congressmen wanting to prosecute the Clintons for refusing to testify in secret, have slowed the process, when it became clear that any such prosecution would result in the evidence being made public.

You couldn’t be more wrong in these charges.

keith99 · Sunday at 12:59 PM

MarkSB said:
How was he interfering with law enforcement? Can you explain that? The videos show them coming up to him, pushing him, then assaulting him. How was he interfering?

He was filming them which would restrict what they could get away with. Extreme interference!

Desk trauma · Sunday at 1:01 PM

keith99 said:
He was filming them which would restrict what they could get away with.

As this and the last shooting demonstrate, filming does not cause them to moderate their behavior.

FreeinChrist · Sunday at 1:06 PM

The Barbarian said:
We're seeing desperate attempts to hide facts from Americans in a variety of things. The killings in Minneapolis, Trump's involvement with Epstein, the findings in Jack Smith's investigation. It's notable that republican congressmen wanting to prosecute the Clintons for refusing to testify in secret, have slowed the process, when it became clear that any such prosecution would result in the evidence being made public.

LOL. yes they were falling into a trap and probably will back way off. IF they actually go after the Clintons, then the Clintons can demand to see the evidence, as in the whole Epstein files. I listened to Legal AF talk about that this week.

Always in His Presence · Sunday at 1:09 PM

FreeinChrist said:
NOPE. He was initially assaulted by a ICE agent who kept it up, backing him up, for the terrible 'crime' of filming'. Another officer pushed an unarmed older woman down, and Alex got between her and that officer. Then a group of officers attacked Alex. There is video showing that an officer got his gun and took it away before all the shooting happed. He was murdered. My God judge those evil men

Yup - the man assaulted armed federal agents - fired a shot and was killed - it's a shame, it didn't need to happen and perhaps God is judging him at this very moment.

It's sad - killed while defending criminals.

camille70 · Sunday at 1:13 PM

GoldenBoy89 said:
The video clearly shows him being disarmed and then shot multiple times. I don’t know what else you need. It seems like some of you will just continue to give this government the benefit of the doubt while they are executing citizens exercising their rights.

There is a video where a guy posts his theory that when the agent took the gun from the victims holster that the gun went off causing everyone to jump back and shoot. That had crossed my mind also. Plus the video online where they are frantically searching the body and asking where's the gun.

GoldenBoy89 said:
That would be what I would expect out of a responsible agency and administration not interested in further politicizing and fanning the flames.

Do you think that’s what we’ll see out of this one?

According to the letter Bondi sent, all MN has to do is hand over the sensitive data of its citizens and ICE will go away quietly. So much for a national immigrant crime wave.

Desk trauma said:
As this and the last shooting demonstrate, filming does not cause them to moderate their behavior.

Agreed. There is even a video of an agent clapping his hands as if in celebration when he got shot. This seems like a video game. On to the next level.

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