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Man shot by federal agents in Minneapolis has died, police chief tells CNN. DHS says suspect was armed

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Behind a paywall

...perhaps gifted articles don't work when accessed from a another platform?
It's not actually behind a paywall, but the WaPo requires readers of even gifted articles to be registered; registration is free but not that many want to register to read free articles.

The video linked in the article (to X formerly known as Twitter) seems to be the video from the woman in the pink coat. Slowed down, it is pretty clear that the shooter saw that the gun was in the other agent's hand before he shot Pretti in the back.
 
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It seem to be an important talking point of the local powers that be!
The "important talking point" is that he was a legal gun owner who was permitted to carry a firearm. Whether or not he was carrying his ID when he was shot is not relevant because, again, no one asked him for it, so it had zero influence on the situation.
 
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Because not exercising responsibility and common sense in a hostile environment.
We already know this is considered perfectly acceptable.

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So, the victim was just minding his own business, did absolutely nothing wrong and ICE murdered him in cold blood for no reason at all.
Absolutely.
If you can believe that then you can believe anything.
Some people believe in talking snakes; others believe that filming ICE while legally armed is perfectly acceptable.
 
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Uh.... FEDERAL Officers involved in a shooting - requires FEDERAL investigation - if it was local PD, then they would have jurisdiction to do so.
Until earlier this month, these matters would be handled by joint investigations, as obviously both federal and state laws may have been violated. Minnesota has jurisdiction over itself.
 
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Until earlier this month, these matters would be handled by joint investigations, as obviously both federal and state laws may have been violated. Minnesota has jurisdiction over itself.
Not when it is a Federal issue - state jurisdiction does not not take precedence - Just like local cops can't interfere with the FBI
 
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Until earlier this month, these matters would be handled by joint investigations, as obviously both federal and state laws may have been violated. Minnesota has jurisdiction over itself.

Historically, at least before the shooting of Renee Good, joint investigations, to include sharing of information etc, were always conducted with the FBI taking the lead.

In Minnesota, there is NO joint investigation. The Federal Government has made that clear. They have gone so far as to block and ignore a judicial warrant authorizing access to the crime scene by Minnesota.
 
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The "important talking point" is that he was a legal gun owner who was permitted to carry a firearm. Whether or not he was carrying his ID when he was shot is not relevant because, again, no one asked him for it, so it had zero influence on the situation.
Kristi Noam said it well. Who goes to a peaceful protest with a gun rather than a sign. No matter how some try to demonize the agents and justify the protester, he involved himself in the interaction with the agent and the woman who ignored their commands. Video clearly shows his poor decisions to interfere with law enforcement and he violently resisted arrest while being armed himself. That is a recipe for disaster which resulted in his death. His poor choices caused his own demise. Case closed , this will in the end be found to be a justified shoot. Sad it had to happen but his choice caused it. The governor and mayor have responsibility by stoking these protests. Probably to deflect from their own corruption.
 
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Until earlier this month, these matters would be handled by joint investigations, as obviously both federal and state laws may have been violated. Minnesota has jurisdiction over itself.
Minnesota needs to clean up its own corruption before trying to claim jurisdiction over federal matters.
 
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Kristi Noam said it well. Who goes to a peaceful protest with a gun rather than a sign. No matter how some try to demonize the agents and justify the protester, he involved himself in the interaction with the agent and the woman who ignored their commands. Video clearly shows his poor decisions to interfere with law enforcement and he violently resisted arrest while being armed himself. That is a recipe for disaster which resulted in his death. His poor choices caused his own demise. Case closed , this will in the end be found to be a justified shoot. Sad it had to happen but his choice caused it. The governor and mayor have responsibility by stoking these protests. Probably to deflect from their own corruption.

Sure, blame the victim 100% and dimsiss any accountability by the federal agents. Kristi Noam found her mark.
 
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Kristi Noam said it well. Who goes to a peaceful protest with a gun rather than a sign.
Americans do. I know it may seem crazy to foreigners but we have a long standing tradition of armed citizenry.
No matter how some try to demonize the agents and justify the protester, he involved himself in the interaction with the agent and the woman who ignored their commands.
It was the agents who involved him. He was only recording their actions and trying to help up a woman they had pushed to the ground.
Video clearly shows his poor decisions to interfere with law enforcement and he violently resisted arrest while being armed himself.
What does it mean to "violently resist"? What, specifically were his violent actions while resisting arrest?
His poor choices caused his own demise. Case closed ,
Well I'm glad we got a thorough investigation this time before coming to any conclusions.
this will in the end be found to be a justified shoot.
I wouldn't expect anything else.
Sad it had to happen but his choice caused it.
Are you sad about it?
The governor and mayor have responsibility by stoking these protests. Probably to deflect from their own corruption.
It is an interesting coincidence all this seems to be happening in MN.
 
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It's not actually behind a paywall, but the WaPo requires readers of even gifted articles to be registered; registration is free but not that many want to register to read free articles.

The video linked in the article (to X formerly known as Twitter) seems to be the video from the woman in the pink coat. Slowed down, it is pretty clear that the shooter saw that the gun was in the other agent's hand before he shot Pretti in the back.
I think I have seen it. I don't know how you are drawing those conclusions though I just see chaos.
At any rate ICE should suspend operations there and let things cool off
 
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Yes he did - watch the video - he is fighting with multiple Federal Officers - in the melee there is a single shot heard that causes ALL the officers to step back - then he is fired upon.

Uh.... FEDERAL Officers involved in a shooting - requires FEDERAL investigation - if it was local PD, then they would have jurisdiction to do so.
NOPE. He was initially assaulted by a ICE agent who kept it up, backing him up, for the terrible 'crime' of filming'. Another officer pushed an unarmed older woman down, and Alex got between her and that officer. Then a group of officers attacked Alex. There is video showing that an officer got his gun and took it away before all the shooting happed. He was murdered. My God judge those evil men
 
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Sure, blame the victim 100% and dimsiss any accountability by the federal agents. Kristi Noam found her mark.
It tracks the woman who could shoot a defenseless dog would see a defenseless man on the ground as a violent threat.
 
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And now the character assassination after the actual assassination.
Yes, it is a pattern. Do something bad and then do not take responsibility and attack the victim. It is so vile.

And some Christians cheer this. Those who cheer it make Christianity look terrible.
 
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At any rate ICE should suspend operations there and let things cool off
That would be what I would expect out of a responsible agency and administration not interested in further politicizing and fanning the flames.

Do you think that’s what we’ll see out of this one?
 
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I believe in 1st and 2nd amendment rights but I also believe in exercising responsibility and common sense. How do you know without a shadow of a doubt that the victim was never given the opportunity to surrender? Those videos are not crystal clear.
Surrender for what? The crime of videoing the ICE agents?

It is not a crime. There was no call to attack Alex.
 
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