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Would you pray for Putin?
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We should also pray for the leaders of NATO countries who deliberately lied to Putin about their intentions not to expand NATO to Russia's borders.
The USA was willing to invade Cuba back when Russia was going to place missiles on the island of their ally. War was averted when a diplomatic solution was found. NATO put Putin in the same situation. He tried for a diplomatic solution but NATO and Biden promised to support Ukraine and forced Putin's hand. If people want to label Putin as evil then they need to do the same for Biden and Merkel and the other NATO members. More so for them because they were willing to sacrifice the lives of tens of thousands of Ukrainians in their goal of weakening Russia while they themselves suffered nothing.
The USA was willing to invade Cuba back when Russia was going to place missiles on the island of their ally. War was averted when a diplomatic solution was found. NATO put Putin in the same situation. He tried for a diplomatic solution but NATO and Biden promised to support Ukraine and forced Putin's hand. If people want to label Putin as evil then they need to do the same for Biden and Merkel and the other NATO members. More so for them because they were willing to sacrifice the lives of tens of thousands of Ukrainians in their goal of weakening Russia while they themselves suffered nothing.
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Putin is a politician. Amongst Russians, he portrays himself as Orthodox. Amongst his very many Muslim citizens, he portrays himself as a warrior against homosexuality etc. Amongst his many animist citizens, he portrays himself as a warrior against 'black magic' etc. He covers all the bases, to bend people to his will; which is the restoration of the Russian Empire. This is why Finland and Poland are arming up, as they were both part of the Russian Empire in the 1800s.Putin sees himself as a 'saviour' of Ukraine, protecting them from the encroachment of our perverse decadent corrupt western nations, so perhaps he's got a valid point?..
Under Putin, Islam is growing in Russia at a great rate, as most migrants to Russia are now Muslim, and the Orthodox population is in a long term and accelerating decline. I believe that the "Live Births" statistics were classified in Russia from about 9 months after the start of the 2022 invasion, and calls for mass mobilisation...
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We are commanded to pray for our leaders and, though not mine specifically, he is still a world leader.
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Praying for others is nice. But Jesus probably doesn’t do polling. Prayer is for the one who prays.
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Would I pray for Putin? The answer is a resounding yes! Everyone needs a chance or two to come to Christ, so I will pray he gets saved.
I actually have compassion on Putin despite everything he has done. I feel sorry for him in that he doesn't have a relationship with Jesus.
Are we in what is called the Age of Grace? Also called the Church Age, its a span of time that God is using to save people and call out a people for His name.
And if God is exercising His Grace towards us, then why shouldn't I do the same? With grace I give to Putin the gospel and show mercy.
I actually have compassion on Putin despite everything he has done. I feel sorry for him in that he doesn't have a relationship with Jesus.
Are we in what is called the Age of Grace? Also called the Church Age, its a span of time that God is using to save people and call out a people for His name.
And if God is exercising His Grace towards us, then why shouldn't I do the same? With grace I give to Putin the gospel and show mercy.
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