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Man shot by federal agents in Minneapolis has died, police chief tells CNN. DHS says suspect was armed

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Mac Randolph said in a Facebook post that Perrti treated his father at the VA. He posted a video on his Facebook page showing the nurse giving the final salute at the VA after his father passed away in 2024.

"Today we remember that freedom is not free. We have to work at it, nurture it, protect it and even sacrifice for it," Pretti says in the video. "We may never forget and always remember our brothers and sisters who have served so that we may enjoy the gift of freedom."

Randolph said in his post: "Never wanted to share this video but his speech is very on point. Also my Fathers final words to me was continue to fight the good fight. He would be honored in Alex’ sacrifice, and ashamed of this current administration."
 
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You ignore the point. If he had no ID it is possible he was not legally carrying at that time.
If he had no ID on him, then yes, he was not carrying legally. Again, that is irrelevant.
Which could be a clue as to why he was there armed.
How so? It's not like leaving your ID at home makes you invisible or unidentifiable. Given how quickly he was identified, this is also a red herring.

Maybe he forgot his wallet? Maybe he was under the impression that not having an ID on him would make it harder for him to be charged if he was arrested? Maybe he did have his ID and whoever told you he didn't is lying to you?
 
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And just like that having a holstered firearm in public goes from a patriot exercising their rights to a potential mass killer. So long as they were killed by a federal agent.
 
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DHS statement is pure gaslighting. All the videos contradict that statement.
Those videos do not conclusively support your argument. Let the investigation play out before jumping to any biased conclusions.
 
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And just like that having a holstered firearm in public goes from a patriot exercising their rights to a potential mass killer. So long as they were killed by a federal agent.

As long as they were a liberal killed by a federal agent.

Remember: Ashley Babbit was a hero and a patriot and the guys at the Bundy ranch were merely defending a poor, set upon rancher trying to survive under an incresingly oppressive federal bureaucracy.
 
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I'm not saying the shooting was justified but I have to laugh at the people who say the video "clearly" shows this or that.
There is nothing "clear " about the videos
The video clearly shows him being disarmed and then shot multiple times. I don’t know what else you need. It seems like some of you will just continue to give this government the benefit of the doubt while they are executing citizens exercising their rights.
 
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Those videos do not conclusively support your argument. Let the investigation play out before jumping to any biased conclusions.
There will be no investigation. DHS has already announced the verdict.
 
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Those videos do not conclusively support your argument. Let the investigation play out before jumping to any biased conclusions.
Except that those in charge of said investigations are already within hours of the event blatantly lying claiming he was intent on a massacre and was wielding a gun. There is no possibility whatsoever of an unbiased investigation.
 
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He was clearly not an assassin. If you have a gun do you fire from distance or rush in and be grappled. The authorities lied blatantly, why are you defending lying??
It’s easier than coming to grips with the reality they’ve ushered in for everyone.
 
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Since he never drew the gun, he obviously had no violent intentions.
Speculation. Why would someone approach federal law enforcement with a gun in the first place (especially in a hostile environment) then resist arrest and fight against these agents?
 
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Yes, Noem and Bovino are making conclusions before an investigation.
Again.
They could have been supportive of the agents while saying that the shooting was under investigation.
Why would you expect that out of these people?
That would sit better with most people instead of jumping to conclusions
People need to stop supporting the people doing things they don’t like. That would go a very long way to show they don’t actually support when these government elected officials do and say things like this.


But it’s too late for regrets now.
 
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Come on. With all the chaos and all the people there they're supposed to leave the gun laying on the ground?

Who suggested that?
The last image we have is one of the federal agents with the weapon in his hand. What happened after that is anyone's guess. DHS publishes a photo of a gun on a car seat. Is that the weapon? Whose vehicle is that?

As a former LEO, I expect you would understand the need to secure the scene and to gather evidence professionally.
 
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