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There is only 2 options, Life formed because of God, or by random chance from non-living matter
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We are talking about cause and effect. WE see the effect, we guess at the cause.
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What exactly do you think you detect from a soul?
And, BTW, I was just following your lead.
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I don’t think about it in terms of soul at all. A soul is individual, and souls don’t merge or synchronize. What I think about is a kind of universal consciousness — the way people can recognize the same truth at the same time. You see hints of that in To Kill a Mockingbird. People don’t align because their souls blend together. They align when their individual souls respond to the same truth. You maybe thinking of something different from me.
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So you do not see us as individuals? I am wondering about the Kingdom age because that is something that is collective and may not be individual at all.
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Are souls a product of the person? Do they exist outside bodies? Do they survive death? Do they interact with the flesh or are they part of it?
[I ask because "soul" is a very nebulous word as used by many people.]
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I know this. My question should have been more precise. How do you know that we have an immaterial soul? My point is that I believe scripture does not teach you that we have a soul in the sense that most of people think. Most people conceive of the soul and the kind of non-physical thing that inhabits the body. I see no evidence for this view from scripture.
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You keep trying to drag Plato into a discussion that belongs in Genesis. I’m talking about the Bible, not Greek philosophy. Genesis 2:7 uses the Hebrew word nephesh, and nephesh does not mean a detachable, ghost‑like “soul” the way Plato described it. The text says the man became a living nephesh. It does not say the man “received” a soul. It says the whole living person is the nephesh. If we’re going to talk about what the Bible actually says, we have to start with the Hebrew word in the verse — nephesh — not Plato’s concept.
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You are doing the same thing, so I will give you the same answer. You keep trying to drag Plato into a discussion that belongs in Genesis. I’m talking about the Bible, not Greek philosophy. Genesis 2:7 uses the Hebrew word nephesh, and nephesh does not mean a detachable, ghost‑like “soul” the way Plato described it. The text says the man became a living nephesh. It does not say the man “received” a soul. It says the whole living person is the nephesh. If we’re going to talk about what the Bible actually says, we have to start with the Hebrew word in the verse — nephesh — not Plato’s concept.
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Same thing,same answer the discussion has NOTHING to do with Plato. 'we are talking about the Hebrew word used in this passage. We need to study HEBREW if we want to study our Bible.
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