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Trump belittles the sacrifices of European forces helping the US in Afghanistan.

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Well, it's a full time job pointing out the stupid things he does and says as well. Not including the lies. But c'mon, at what point where it's going on constantly do you say 'enough is enough'? It's not viable to say 'Well, I can't criticise him all the time because it happens too frequently and I just can't keep up'.

That's just...crazy.
I’ve had enough of some of his foolishness but when I’m almost ready to just be done he manages to pull things off and all the doom and gloom that you predicted never happens
 
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I’ve had enough of some of his foolishness but when I’m almost ready to just be done he manages to pull things off and all the doom and gloom that you predicted never happens
But it's not getting as far as predictions. It's reactions to his words and deeds.

He threatens to take a NATO country by force. That's not acceptable. He threatens allies with punitive tariffs because they don't support such an idiotic move. That's not acceptable. He denigrates those service men and women from NATO countries who have given their lives. That is not acceptable. He threatens Canada with 100% tariffs because they dare deal with China. That is not acceptable. He lied about the ICE officer who shot Good. That isn't acceptable. That is the doom and gloom.

There's absolutely nothing just in the last week that comes anywhere near to him 'pulling things off'. It's one disaster after another. There's probably more, but I haven't checked the news yet...

And 'foolishness' would be to show the world he can't even remember the name of the country he wants to occupy. Or post images of himself and a penguin. There are giraffes closer to Greenland than penguins. That would be foolishness. What's listed above is not.
 
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But it's not getting as far as predictions. It's reactions to his words and deeds.

He threatens to take a NATO country by force. That's not acceptable. He threatens allies with punitive tariffs because they don't support such an idiotic move. That's not acceptable. He denigrates those service men and women from NATO countries who have given their lives. That is not acceptable. He threatens Canada with 100% tariffs because they dare deal with China. That is not acceptable. He lied about the ICE officer who shot Good. That isn't acceptable. That is the doom and gloom.

There's absolutely nothing just in the last week that comes anywhere near to him 'pulling things off'. It's one disaster after another. There's probably more, but I haven't checked the news yet...

And 'foolishness' would be to show the world he can't even remember the name of the country he wants to occupy. Or post images of himself and a penguin. There are giraffes closer to Greenland than penguins. That would be foolishness. What's listed above is not.
maybe he's thinking Canada and that I'm not american song.
 
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49.9% of American voters--and 100% of the free world--can spot frauds a mile away.
SMH at the other American voters.
How long can they keep saying "but he's pro life" while ICE drags 5 year olds into Texas prisons?
Voters are irrelevant considering Trump will never be running for office again. And those who voted past tense can't un-vote. Also it was "but Kamala" that swayed a lot of voters. Hopefully next time the Democrats will choose a stronger candidate for President, who in turn will choose a more favorable VP.
 
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Voters are irrelevant considering Trump will never be running for office again. And those who voted past tense can't un-vote. Also it was "but Kamala" that swayed a lot of voters. Hopefully next time the Democrats will choose a stronger candidate for President, who in turn will choose a more favorable VP.
Then maybe that's a problem with your system?

Voter opinions should matter throughout an administration - not just at the start of one.

In Australia if public opinion turns against a current PM bad enough, the party will roll that PM!

It's called a leadership spill.

Maybe we're happier to do it in the Westminster system because we don't really vote for the leader, but the party?

Maybe too many big businesses are too convinced that their lobbying money should receive some payback before a leader they invested in gets rolled? They own him, and want their payback, despite the popular opinion. (Which of course is more like an Oligarchy than a Democracy.)

Thoughts?

Also, he has Malignant NPD. Who is the 'someone' who should enact the 25th against this permanently deluded and permanently incapacitated individual?
 
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I think the point being made was equally obvious. How come it's fair game to criticise someone for using a mildly sarcastic term when nobody, and I really mean nobody from the right of politics on this forum has criticised Trump for doing much, much worse. Hundreds of times. It's all been met with a deathly silence.

Why isn't he called out every time he does it?

Not all of us on the right are like that.

It's morally and intellectually consistent to be critical when necessary and give credit where it's due.

No one is perfect, and pretending they are is disingenuous and dishonest. I don't know why people can't accept that you aren't 'losing' by admitting someone from your 'team' got something wrong.

The absolutist positioning is pretty silly.

Anyway, yes, Trump's comments in this regard are deplorable. My country was fortunate to get a half-apology in a roundabout way, but the rest didn't.
 
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Voters are irrelevant considering Trump will never be running for office again. And those who voted past tense can't un-vote. Also it was "but Kamala" that swayed a lot of voters. Hopefully next time the Democrats will choose a stronger candidate for President, who in turn will choose a more favorable VP.
you mean more favorable then trump and vance who everyone one knew would be a disaster and actually it will heavily matter even before he's out of office, since unless trump cheats/calls off elections the right is heading towards massive losses in november.
 
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you mean more favorable then trump and vance who everyone one knew would be a disaster and actually it will heavily matter even before he's out of office, since unless trump cheats/calls off elections the right is heading towards massive losses in november.
What is the left going to do when Trump's term is over and they don't have him to blame anymore?
Do they have a platform other than being against everything Trump does?
I think they're going to miss him when he's gone
 
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Also, he has Malignant NPD. Who is the 'someone' who should enact the 25th against this permanently deluded and permanently incapacitated individual?
Only JD Vance and Trump's handpicked loyalist cabinet.

-- A2SG, we're doomed....
 
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What is the left going to do when Trump's term is over and they don't have him to blame anymore?
Govern, hopefully. If they don't, we'll criticize them for it.

Democrats don't tend to follow their leaders blindly and believe they can do no wrong.

Do they have a platform other than being against everything Trump does?
I, for one, cannot wait to see.

I think they're going to miss him when he's gone
Nope.

-- A2SG, not even a little...
 
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you mean more favorable then trump and vance who everyone one knew would be a disaster
Everyone except for the 77,301,997 people who voted for Trump / Vance.
and actually it will heavily matter even before he's out of office, since unless trump cheats/calls off elections the right is heading towards massive losses in november.
Perhaps.
 
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What is the left going to do when Trump's term is over and they don't have him to blame anymore?
Do they have a platform other than being against everything Trump does?
I think they're going to miss him when he's gone
I don't know, maybe follow the rights playbook and spend 13 years blaming obama, or 1 year blaming Biden.
 
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I don't know, maybe follow the rights playbook and spend 13 years blaming obama, or 1 year blaming Biden.
I really wish someone would come along who was above all that and worked on solutions other than assigning blame
 
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I really wish someone would come along who was above all that and worked on solutions other than assigning blame
Yeah, too bad a certain party will blame Biden for things Trump has done and made worse, and I've seen many here on the forums do the same.
 
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Yeah, too bad a certain party will blame Biden for things Trump has done and made worse, and I've seen many here on the forums do the same.
The left does the same thing.
 
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The left does the same thing.
Give me some examples? :>

I can give you plenty from trump and the right.

Economy, trump still acts like what ever effects to the economy from Biden are at fault instead of trumps tariffs, and other issues. While biden was stuck with the disaster trump and Maga made of covid.
Open borders, never happened, but the right still pretends they existed.
As above not enough deportations, biden deported more then trumps first term but who cares about facts
 
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Give me some examples? :>

I can give you plenty from trump and the right.

Economy, trump still acts like what ever effects to the economy from Biden are at fault instead of trumps tariffs, and other issues. While biden was stuck with the disaster trump and Maga made of covid.
Open borders, never happened, but the right still pretends they existed.
As above not enough deportations, biden deported more then trumps first term but who cares about facts
And on and on it goes. I remember when people were blaming Bush for the economy and the debt far into Obama's term.
It gets old
 
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Everyone except for the 77,301,997 people who voted for Trump / Vance.


un-huh. Check the polls. Trump has lost much of the HIspanic vote, and lost many Independents, and GenZ voters.


It’s been a bad stretch of polling for President Donald Trump.​
In recent weeks, a string of new polls has found Trump losing ground with key constituencies, especially the young, non-white and low-propensity voters who swung decisively in his direction in 2024. The uptick in support for Trump among those non-traditional Republican voters helped fuel chatter of an enduring “realignment” in the American electorate — but the durability of that realignment is now coming into doubt with those same groups cooling on Trump. Surveying the findings of the most recent New York Times-Siena poll, polling analyst Nate Cohn bluntly declared that “the second Trump coalition has unraveled.”​

President Donald Trump’s approval rating has “fallen off a cliff with Generation Z,” according to CNN’s chief data analyst.​
Speaking on air on Wednesday, Harry Enten pointed to CBS News data showing it has fallen from +10 points one month into the administration in February 2025 to -32 points today....​

Why It Matters

Gen Z, made up of those born between 1997 and 2012, played a pivotal role in the 2024 election when Trump improved his margin with young voters and returned to the White House.​
Less than a year later, data shows his support from this influential demographic has dropped precipitously, raising questions about the Republican Party’s hold on younger voters and the future of U.S. electoral dynamics.....​
In 2024, these voters identified with—or leaned toward—Democrats over Republicans by six points.​
By 2025, that gap had widened sharply to 20 points, which Enten described as the biggest shift of any group.​
He noted that while the overall electorate also moved, this increase was more than double the change seen nationwide and represented a significant swing toward Democrats.​
Many from that 77,301,997 regret their vote for him.
 
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