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White House, DHS push back on claims ICE targeted 5-year-old in Minnesota, say child was 'abandoned'

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"ICE did NOT target a child. The child was ABANDONED," Homeland Security wrote on X on Thursday. "On January 20, ICE conducted a targeted operation to arrest Adrian Alexander Conejo Arias, an illegal alien from Ecuador who was RELEASED into the U.S. by the Biden administration."
"As agents approached the driver Adrian Alexander Conejo Arias fled on foot — abandoning his child. For the child’s safety, one of our ICE officers remained with the child while the other officers apprehended Conejo Arias," it added.

There are SO many similar stories. In this case Vice President Vance read about the child on his way to Minneapolis. Vance also has a five-year-old, read the disturbing story, and researched it himself. Thus he was able to get the facts out when asked about it by the press just hours later. The original fake news stories, misleading the public, are typical of the stories put out by Governor Walz and the media. And sometimes by the time the facts get out such tales become gospel for anti-administration activists.
 

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"ICE did NOT target a child. The child was ABANDONED," Homeland Security wrote on X on Thursday. "On January 20, ICE conducted a targeted operation to arrest Adrian Alexander Conejo Arias, an illegal alien from Ecuador who was RELEASED into the U.S. by the Biden administration."
"As agents approached the driver Adrian Alexander Conejo Arias fled on foot — abandoning his child. For the child’s safety, one of our ICE officers remained with the child while the other officers apprehended Conejo Arias," it added.

There are SO many similar stories. In this case Vice President Vance read about the child on his way to Minneapolis. Vance also has a five-year-old, read the disturbing story, and researched it himself. Thus he was able to get the facts out when asked about it by the press just hours later. The original fake news stories, misleading the public, are typical of the stories put out by Governor Walz and the media. And sometimes by the time the facts get out such tales become gospel for anti-administration activists.
They can push back all they want but, truth be told....

ICE used the child to draw out the mother from her home. She made a choice to stay inside because her husband instructed her to do so as their 13 year son was on his way home from school and needed to be protected and cared for. No abandonment here. She did the right thing in order to protect her older child. If this administration follows the law, her small child will be back in her custody very soon.
Let us reason. Please.
 
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When we get to the part where we justify a government agency using a child as bait, we have entered the practices of Germany, 1930s.
 
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They can push back all they want but, truth be told....

ICE used the child to draw out the mother from her home. She made a choice to stay inside because her husband instructed her to do so as their 13 year son was on his way home from school and needed to be protected and cared for. No abandonment here. She did the right thing in order to protect her older child. If this administration follows the law, her small child will be back in her custody very soon.
Let us reason. Please.
The truth is the father left the child in the car, which was running, and ran away. That's abandonment. Agitators showed up blowing horns. ICE played music for the child who was frightened because of the noise of the agitators. They fed the child. ICE caught the father. Witnesses said the father yelled not to open the house door. People have claimed the mother was in the house., but no one would open the door. Multiple people said they would take the child. ICE cannot legally turn over a child to unauthorized adults, they need the consent of a parent or a guardian. The father did not authorize anyone else to take his child, he requested the child be kept with him. ICE followed the law and the child, according to the last reports I have seen, is still in Texas as is his father.
 
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When we get to the part where we justify a government agency using a child as bait, we have entered the practices of Germany, 1930s.
Using a Child as bait? Oh do tell.
 
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Using a Child as bait? Oh do tell.
If you’re not informed with the incident, I’m not sure why you expect to contribute to a discussion on it.
 
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If you’re not informed with the incident, I’m not sure why you expect to contribute to a discussion on it.
Please, explain how the child was used as "bait?" Educate me.
 
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The child wasn't used as bait.

The people saying that are the types who hop on Facebook and make insufferable posts like

"Repeat after me: :clapping: the :clapping: cruelty :clapping: is :clapping: the :clapping: point"

When the father took off and left his kid in a running vehicle, had they just all left the scene and done nothing, there would've still been complaints of "why didn't they take care of the child, they just abandoned a kid in a running vehicle"

When the mother inside the house refused to take custody of the child, and neighbors were trying to claim "I'll take him", had they done that, it would've been "they scared off his dad, and then left him in the custody of some random person in the neighborhood, can you believe that?!?!"


What's the ideal situation here? "As long as you have a kid, the rules don't apply"?
 
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The child wasn't used as bait.

The people saying that are the types who hop on Facebook and make insufferable posts like

"Repeat after me: :clapping: the :clapping: cruelty :clapping: is :clapping: the :clapping: point"

When the father took off and left his kid in a running vehicle, had they just all left the scene and done nothing, there would've still been complaints of "why didn't they take care of the child, they just abandoned a kid in a running vehicle"

When the mother inside the house refused to take custody of the child, and neighbors were trying to claim "I'll take him", had they done that, it would've been "they scared off his dad, and then left him in the custody of some random person in the neighborhood, can you believe that?!?!"


What's the ideal situation here? "As long as you have a kid, the rules don't apply"?
I am interested in @Tropical Wilds and her superior understanding of the story to explain it to me. After all, I am apparently too uninformed about the incident to contribute to the discussion. So hopefully this will be a learning experience for me.
 
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Please, explain how the child was used as "bait?" Educate me.
When we get to the part where we justify a government agency using a child as bait, we have entered the practices of Germany, 1930s.
 
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In another post, DHS wrote: "Our officers made multiple attempts to get the mother inside the house to take custody of her child. Officers even assured her that they would NOT take her into custody. She refused to accept custody of the child. The father told officers he wanted the child to remain with him. Our officers' primary concern during the entire operation was the safety and welfare of the child. Following the mother’s abandonment of the child, officers abided by the father’s wishes to keep the child with him. Father and son are together at Dilley [Immigration Processing Center]."
 
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I am interested in @Tropical Wilds and her superior understanding of the story to explain it to me. After all, I am apparently too uninformed about the incident to contribute to the discussion. So hopefully this will be a learning experience for me.
This level of self awareness becomes you.

Happily, the child has been reunited with his mother after working out a safe, neutral means for the mother and child to be reunited, as opposed to having the abductors of her husband use the child to lure their mother out of hiding, especially given as there are other children she is caring for.

Still waiting to hear the grounds for abducting the father, though, as it has been confirmed he was not here illegally nor in violation of any of his directives.
 
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This level of self awareness becomes you.

Happily, the child has been reunited with his mother after working out a safe, neutral means for the mother and child to be reunited, as opposed to having the abductors of her husband use the child to lure their mother out of hiding, especially given as there are other children she is caring for.

Still waiting to hear the grounds for abducting the father, though, as it has been confirmed he was not here illegally nor in violation of any of his directives.
So they used the child as bait to lure the mother out of hiding so the child can be reunited with her? I dont know. It sounds to me like the only thing being used as bait was your comment.
 
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Not to mention some of our friends on CF
Your post was exceptionally more polite than what mine could ever be. I admire your integrity.
 
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So they used the child as bait to lure the mother out of hiding so the child can be reunited with her? I dont know. It sounds to me like the only thing being used as bait was your comment.
And January 6th was a parade.
 
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