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Don Lemon joins anti-ICE protesters storming Minnesota church service in chaotic scenes as stunned pastor blasts 'unacceptable' stunt

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I was just coming to post this. He approved 2 but not Lemon.

The magistrate judge did sign off on the two arrests that Bondi had announced, but would not approve charges against Lemon.

CBS News’ article reported that Bondi was “enraged at the magistrate’s decision,” according to “a source familiar with the matter.”
Bondi isn't very good at her nominal job. :wave:
 
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The FACE Act requires obstruction, the use of force or the threat of the use of force. It's not clear any of those apply.
I would post the video, but the level of obscenities' inside the church would be breaking forum rules.
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Does that child look at peace or scared?


Watch the video - I found a clean one

The protesters enter a full church - 1:30 seconds later - the church is all but empty - they didn't all leave for the buffet - they were intimidated out of a house of worship. And that is illegal.
 
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The FACE Act requires obstruction, the use of force or the threat of the use of force. It's not clear any of those apply.
Yelling inside a church as opposed to outside certainly seems to be obstruction of worship to me.
 
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Yelling inside a church as opposed to outside certainly seems to be obstruction of worship to me.
There are people, even on this thread, who think this was a harmless thing to do. Traumatizing children is a good thing!
Cannot be allowed. They will be doing this in every church across the country if it is normalized. These folks have no conscience. No decency. No fear of God whatsoever.
 
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I'm starting to understand why so many Trump supporters are deceived. The White House is now a full blown propaganda outlet. I knew they were often misleading but wow. Just wow.


White House posts digitally altered image of woman arrested after ICE protest

Guardian analysis shows images are the same, with Nekima Levy Armstrong looking composed in original but sobbing after alteration
 
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I would post the video, but the level of obscenities' inside the church would be breaking forum rules.View attachment 375609

Does that child look at peace or scared?


Watch the video - I found a clean one

The protesters enter a full church - 1:30 seconds later - the church is all but empty - they didn't all leave for the buffet - they were intimidated out of a house of worship. And that is illegal.

If the church is all but empty then they didn't obstruct the entrance preventing people from entering or leaving.
 
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Yes. A collection of Journalists invaded a church service in Saint Paul. Freedom of the press, don't you know. :p
 
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I will agree with the majority that going into churches is at the minimum bad protocol. I don't know if it is illegal, but willing to see it as a possibility, perhaps case by case.
That said, I don't think it was coincidental that this event (stunt) took place after policy changes were made by Homeland Security.

This action empowers the brave men and women in CBP and ICE to enforce our immigration laws and catch criminal aliens.. in America’s schools and churches.."

This is bad policy and as some have argued, may be illegal.
 
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I will agree with the majority that going into churches is at the minimum bad protocol. I don't know if it is illegal, but willing to see it as a possibility, perhaps case by case.
That said, I don't think it was coincidental that this event (stunt) took place after policy changes were made by Homeland Security.

This action empowers the brave men and women in CBP and ICE to enforce our immigration laws and catch criminal aliens.. in America’s schools and churches.."

This is bad policy and as some have argued, may be illegal.
I disagree, whatever is meant by "churches", I'm glad the Feds "check" the churches. Too many abuses by "churches", again, whatever that means.
 
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If the church is all but empty then they didn't obstruct the entrance preventing people from entering or leaving.
Good grief - you did not watch the video nor did you read my post!

Here is a screen shot before they invaded:

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does that look all but empty?
 
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Good grief - you did not watch the video nor did you read my post!

Here is a screen shot before they invaded:

View attachment 375652

does that look all but empty?
You said

"The protesters enter a full church - 1:30 seconds later - the church is all but empty - they didn't all leave for the buffet - they were intimidated out of a house of worship. And that is illegal."

So if the church is empty seconds later then the entrances were not obstructed and people could leave freely.

My personal opinion is that this is going to come down to some sort of trespass charge when all is said and done. They were not targeting the church for sole purpose of preventing worship, they were bringing attention to the actions of one pastor who they feel is harming the community all week and then ministering to them on Sunday. If it were my pastor I'd like to know, and I think this could have been handled better, but that may not be the case for everyone.
 
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Just wanted to point out after 6 pages:

No one was shot in the head.
No one was punched and thrown to the ground.
No one was armed with any weapons.
No one was harmed in any way.
No doors bashed in.
I haven't even heard any curse words in any of the videos I've seen of this.
Just a big inconvenience.

And this is what the right gets their knickers in a twist about.
As opposed to getting their knickers in a twist because illegal immigrant criminals are being removed from the streets and deported? That seems just as silly, right?
 
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