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Is America a police state (if you are not white)?
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Valletta
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No, for example, the Supreme Court has ruled that when a non-citizen steps across the border they do NOT suddenly have the same due process as an American citizen.
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Who said it was?
You asked about why due process for non-citizens and the answer remains that every person here is entitled to due process under the law.
Sure, with due process.
Committing crimes to get crime out is less than worthless - it becomes terroristic governmental overreach. I've often heard the term "goon squad" growing up, but now I understand what it means.
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DaisyDay
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No one has said they have all the same rights but they do have due process rights - this has been upheld time and time again.
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False. The Supreme Court has reaffirmed as recently as 2021 that any person who has come to the US, legally or illegally, visiting from another country or building a home, is entitled to basic due process rights. Department of Homeland Security v. Thuraissigiam. If they’ve been stopped at the border or immediately after entering, the have no due process, otherwise all persons regardless of citizenship is entitled due process.
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If you are in law enforcement you can be guilty of violating the rights of any person in the country. They don't have to be citizens. It was one of the first things they taught us in the police academy
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The case you provided proves you wrong. I said "No, for example, the Supreme Court has ruled that when a non-citizen steps across the border they do NOT suddenly have the same due process as an American citizen. " I was absolutely correct. Department of Homeland Security v. Thuraissigiam states:
Respondent argues that this rule does not apply to him because he succeeded in
making it 25 yards into U. S. territory. But the rule would be meaningless
if it became inoperative as soon as an arriving alien set foot on U. S.
soil. An alien who is detained shortly after unlawful entry cannot be
said to have “effected an entry.”
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Immigration law allows for broader executive authority on who stays in the country.
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