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Plus if it was needed they could be re-Mirandized in the car or in an interrogation room.
When I was in patrol they wanted to avoid people being read their rights more than once because after they gave a statement they could go back and say they asked for a lawyer when the 1st officer read them their rights which would make their statements inadmissible.
I thought it was a case where if they wanted to be able to use anything that the person said against them in a court case that they would have need to have had their rights read to them
Anything they say (without being questioned) is admissible in court.
Here is the evidence. They are picking up random people of color with guns drawn and demanding to see proof of citizenship. This is even happening to off-duty police officers from several jurisdictions, as reported by several chiefs of police:
I'm not talking about the individual protestors on the streets using that phrase, I was referring to the talk I see in their little "planning committee" social media groups.
In my experience, they didn’t want to double because the argument would me made that everything before the second Miranda was invalid and by repeating it, the officer acknowledged there was potential for the first one to not apply for whatever reason.
Well, I don't care about what a little "planning committee" says on social media or in their little secret planning meetings. The only thing that matters is what is happening out there in the community and on the streets of our community. What we have is an unorganized grass-roots response by huge numbers of residents outraged at the atrocities we are witnessing by this destructive invasion of a poorly trained and unaccountable federal force of men with guns with no regard for the law or for human decency. Minnesota does not even have very many undocumented immigrants compared to other states closer to the Mexican border, but the number one reason that Minnesota has been chosen as a target of these attacks by federal officers is that Minnesota has made a successful welfare state that is beneficial for all, and therefore it must be destroyed. Trump even said it out loud. It is retribution. Trump is exacting retribution on Minnesota for not voting for him or supporting his vision for America.
I know when progressives try to put emphasis on the "it's not organized", they think they're rebutting the theories/conspiracies by conservatives that these efforts are perhaps being strategically orchestrated by "the eveeel George Soros types"
A) The feds are getting better cooperation from states like Texas, Arizona, Florida, and New Mexico
To the extent that there is any organization associated with this community response it is message lists and social media groups that propose specific places and times for a pre-planned protest so that people can show up at the same time. (This is separate from the ad hoc community responses to specific ICE operations that prompt an immediate response.) The organizers of a planned protest have very little control over the conduct of the protest, except to strongly suggest that certain rules be followed. The ones I am personally aware of always took great pains to remind participants to be considerate of local business and to stay out of the way of traffic. They also advised us not to engage with any counter-demonstrators or argue with people. The purpose is to grow support from the community, not to threaten them. My personal experience has been that there have been no counter-demonstrators. There have been no police confrontations. On the contrary, the most common response we have gotten for our protests have been signs of approval from passing cars. When we were done, we left the place just as we found it. No trash. No damage. That's it. So those protests have taken your suggestion to heart and have provided what organization they could to avoid the worst aspects of protests gone wrong, though gentle suggestions.
All the more reason to stay in those states that are cooperating smoothly and get many many more bodies. Also, it would be much easier on ICE who, ironically enough, are not very prepared for Minnesota ice (the frozen water kind). The low tonight is going to be -23 degrees F. I'm sure the ICE officers would be much more comfortable in Texas. They would have a warmer reception and warmer air.
ICE is venturing many miles outside the Twin Cities metro area. Willmar, for instance, is 50 miles from Minneapolis, and Rochester is 73 miles. The 130,000 undocumented are no more concentrated in Minneapolis than the 1.7 million in Texas are concentrated in Houston.
ICE did go the California first. But Trump also wanted to embarrass Tim Walz. There is no accounting for emotional immaturity in the one who cries "Retribution!"
Trump did not want to see Minnesota succeed in prosecuting those fraud cases, which they were doing since 2022. Many have been convicted are more were in progress. Here is a useful summary of the timeline. That reported ended in Jan. 2025. But there is one very recent addition. Federal prosecutors who had been working on the fraud cases were told by the DOJ to investigate the partner of Renee Good so that it can be used, not in a court of law, but in the court of public opinion. So six federal prosecutors resigned. With them goes years of detailed experience with he Minnesota fraud cases. The cases they were working on may never come to trial. The fact the federal prosecutors actively working on the fraud cases were redirected to muck-racking shows that the administration would rather the fraud cases remain open so they can use it as a campaign argument against the leftists. And before you assign the blame to an immigrant community, remember that the ring-leader - the one who dreamed up the "Feeding our Future" fraud scheme in the firs place was a white woman by the name of Aimee Bock - a citizen and not an immigrant. The administration does not mention her because it runs contrary to the picture they want to paint.
As I said, the planned protests that have been going on in Minnesota ever since June 14th of last year ("No Kings day") have been similarly well-behaved. As ICE arrived those protests naturally became "ICE OUT" protests. (By the way, for Minnesotans, the term "ice out" has another meaning. It is the date in the spring by which the Department of Natural Resources, upon surveying the major lakes, determines for each lake that the winter ice is sufficiently melted and gone for safe navigation from one end of a lake to the other by boat. We are hoping that this year, ICE out will occur before "ice out" on Lake Minnetonka.)
The technology is not the limiting factor. The limiting factor is the fact that organizers do not have any way to force compliance. The only power they have is the power of persuasion for voluntary compliance. And that has not changed at all, regardless of the technological advances in communication.
Before moving to Minnesota, I grew up in Michigan - Detroit to be specific. And at the time of the 1967 riots I was working as a sound engineer with the WJBK news crews in the field and saw first hand the leaderless self-destructive behavior that was almost identical to the unrest in Minneapolis after the murder of George Floyd. (Except that about 1000 buildings in Detroit were destroyed in Detroit were destroyed, as compared to 200 buildings and one police station burned in Minneapolis.) In both cases these were spontaneous and angry eruptions from a population that had felt years of injustice from the powers that be. And in both cases the victims of the riots were primarily the very communities where these rioters lived. Angry responses are often irrational like that. But there is no significant change in people's willingness to embrace a leader for their cause. What is missing is that leader, like Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. around whom such a movement can form. His presence inspired people even after he died. Other than that, things have not changed that much in how people view organization in general. (Purely as an aside, I cannot think of the word "organized" without thinking of my favorite line in the 2000 film "Chicken Run" where Mr. Tweedy says to his wife, "I told you they was organized!")
That assumes there is an opportunity to "get together". It also assumes that people are so desperate for a leader that they will place all their support behind whoever happens to be the least non-charismatic, even if that one is absolutely nothing like a Martin Luther King Jr.
When considering the totality of the early Civil Rights protesters, the difference in who is doing the protesting disappears. Large numbers of middle class whites joined the protests and marches in the 60's. There were many white abolitionists in the pre Civil War era. There are many instances in history of those who are not oppressed joining together with those who are to lend their voice in support. But there is another reason why these protests in Minnesota are happening beyond any altruism:
I understand what you are saying but coming here illegally is a crime.
The situations you mentioned are not comparable to the situation in Minnesota.
