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Trump threatens 25% tariff on European allies until Denmark sells Greenland to US

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COLLINS: Does it include the US having ownership of Greenland?

TRUMP: It's a long term deal. It's the ultimate long term deal

COLLINS: How long is it?

TRUMP: Infinite. There is no time limit. It's a deal that's forever.
They're probably just trying to run down the clock on Trump, either his presidency or his natural expiration date. Putin is a great example on how to do such things.
 
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Canada entered World War 2 in September 1939 on a point of principle, the invasion of a free Nation by an aggressor, Poland attacked by the Nazi beast. The United States entered World War 2 two and a half years after it had started in December 1941 when attacked by Japan, then after Hitler declared war on the United States.

So credit to Canada. Kind Regards :)

America is sorry for being so late in WW1 and WW2, so they promise to be really early in WW3
 
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Not sure how that relates to anything I've said.

...My point is that if the United States didn't exist at all, Canada would have been gobbled up by Russia a long time ago, and Alaska would still be Russia. That hasn't happened because the United States *is* here, and we would never let that happen.
So the same Russia that couldn't take Finland or hold Afghanistan was somehow going to launch a seaborn invasion across thousands of kilometres of Artic ocean into a mountainous, relatively sparsely populated northern Canada?

Sounds like a mid-level dystopian YA novel.
 
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We are getting a deal for Greenland. Tariffs are a negotiation tool. How have you not understood that?

Is there a remind-me function on CF? I want to come back to this thread in two years and see what "deal" the Trump got
 
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We're all against this monstrously idiotic stance he's taking. He's acting like a spoilt 8 year old. All he needs to do to get what he wants is to ask nicely. And that is completely beyond him.

He has serious psychological problems. There is zero doubt about that. Mature adults don't act like he does.

I'd rather negotiate with most 8 year olds.

Trump's psychosis is the result of being raised in a dysfunctional family where his every failure was plastered over to shift the blame to someone else. If he didn't have daddy's money he'd be working a low grade job in Nebraska and scraping through paycheck to paycheck while blaming his ex-wife for his life.
 
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We are getting a deal for Greenland. Tariffs are a negotiation tool. How have you not understood that?
I'm going to have to put this in all caps...

ALL HE HAD TO DO WAS ASK!
 
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Is there a remind-me function on CF? I want to come back to this thread in two years and see what "deal" the Trump got
I use my work calendar for just such eventualities. I'd tell you how well it works, but I have died of my COVID vaccines.
 
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Hey, both countries are islands in the N. Atlantic...

President Donald Trump appeared to refer to Greenland as its neighbor Iceland four times. He claimed that Europeans “loved” him until he told them about his desires to acquire “Iceland.” He also attributed that the stock market slide on Tuesday to Iceland. The stock market sell-off was caused by trade tensions over his plan to acquire Greenland.



Is Iceland next?

Oh Karoline....

Karoline Leavitt, the White House press secretary, denied that Mr. Trump had misspoken, responding in a social media post to a reporter who wrote that he had appeared to mix the countries up multiple times.

“No he didn’t,” she wrote to the reporter. “His written remarks referred to Greenland as a ‘piece of ice’ because that’s what it is. You’re the only one mixing anything up here.”

 
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Considering the amount of US bases in operation in other NATO countries, which serve as important logistical and strategic hubs, I'd say that the USA needs "those allies", yes.

For example, the Ramstein base in germany is a signal hub for any drone operations in the middle east.

 
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He did ask, multiple times.
Maybe some clarification. All he had to do was ask a reasonable request. Owning Greenland is not a reasonable request.
 
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Oh Karoline....

Karoline Leavitt, the White House press secretary, denied that Mr. Trump had misspoken, responding in a social media post to a reporter who wrote that he had appeared to mix the countries up multiple times.

“No he didn’t,” she wrote to the reporter. “His written remarks referred to Greenland as a ‘piece of ice’ because that’s what it is. You’re the only one mixing anything up here.”


A piece of ice, no regard whatsoever for the people the families living there on that `piece of ice`.

Well, here we have a saying, `Stor i orden liten på jorden`.

Meaning, big in words little on earth. reserved for those who boast of how great they are.
 
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He did ask, multiple times.
No, he didn't. And you know that very well. He threatened. That's his MO. It's his only way of operating. It's all he knows.
 
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No, he didn't. And you know that very well. He threatened. That's his MO. It's his only way of operating. It's all he knows.
No. It wasn't threatening at all. But, you appear to actually hate Trump so you ain't going to admit something that contradicted your narrative.
 
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No, it's white washing what is being done currently by making excuses for it.
What is being done, it's a shame, I know - the tens of thousands that have been exterminated by Trump.

...World war 3 is the only logical solution to stop this madness!
 
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No. It wasn't threatening at all. But, you appear to actually hate Trump so you ain't going to admit something that contradicted your narrative.
Good grief...what news are you reading? He literally threatened a number of NATO members with punitive tariffs simply because they didn't support his bat crazy demands. And then threatened to increase them. He threatened to take control of Greenland by any means. He specifically didn't rule out using force.

I mean, you know all this. How in heaven's name can you actually say that he didn't threaten anyone? That makes absolutely no sense at all.
 
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Good grief...what news are you reading? He literally threatened a number of NATO members with punitive tariffs simply because they didn't support his bat crazy demands. And then threatened to increase them. He threatened to take control of Greenland by any means. He specifically didn't rule out using force.

I mean, you know all this. How in heaven's name can you actually say that he didn't threaten anyone? That makes absolutely no sense at all.
It's apparent to me that you don’t recognize how leaders of nations negotiate with one another. If a leader is in a position of strategic strength, then you negotiate from that position.
 
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