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In Dan.12.11; Is it a sacrifice that’s taken away and an abomination set up for 1290 days? The Hebrew doesn’t actually mention a “sacrifice.”

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# Daniel 8:11–13, 9:27, 11:31–36, 12:11 — My Translations & Integrated Grammatical-Theological Exposition

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## Summary:
The term הַתָּמִיד (“the continual”) in Daniel 8, 11, and 12 is **not a reference to a daily sacrifice**. Instead, it denotes an **ongoing state of activity, oppression, or exaltation**. The passages collectively describe:

- The **exaltation of the little horn**, continually lifted up by agents of wickedness.
- The **persecution of the faithful (“stars”)** and the **host of Israel** being **given over** to the enemies as a divine allowance of ongoing evil.
- The **removal / casting away** of the faithful from their sacred positions or sanctuary spaces.
- The **corporate preservation of God’s holy ones**, culminating in purification and presentation before God.

The Hebrew syntax, word order, and lexical usage fully support this interpretation, providing a coherent theological and grammatical understanding without importing ritualistic assumptions.

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## Contextual Illustration — Daniel 11:34–35 (KJV)

> 34 And unto the time appointed the king shall do according to his will; and he shall exalt himself, and magnify himself above every god, and shall speak marvelous things against the God of gods, and shall prosper till the indignation be accomplished: for that that is determined shall be done.
> 35 And he shall give them into trouble, that they may be tried, and sanctified, and purified, and made white, even to the time of the end: because it is yet for a time appointed.

This passage provides **context for the continual activity** in Daniel 8, 11, and 12. The “king” who exalts himself **reflects the ongoing lifting up of the little horn**, while the faithful are **continually given over and taken away**, linking to the “stars” being persecuted or trampled. The **continual** here refers to **persistent activity, trial, and exaltation**, not daily sacrifice. The faithful are **handed over into the hands of their enemies**, demonstrating God’s allowance of ongoing wickedness while **ultimately preserving the holy ones**.

Daniel 7:25 and Daniel 12:11 use the same “giving over” verb, proving the tamid is not a sacrifice but the faithful being handed into oppression.

Daniel 7:25 (Aramaic) says of the holy ones:
“and they shall be given into his hand”
וְיִתְיַהֲבוּן בִּידֵהּ (we-yithyahavûn bîdēh)
Root: יהב (yehav) — to give, hand over, deliver into power

This is a passive verb: the holy ones are handed over to the little horn for a measured period of time (time, times, and half a time).

Daniel 12:11 (Hebrew) uses the same grammatical idea:
נִנָּתֵן (ninnāṯēn) — “is given over”
Root: נתן (natan) — to give, hand over, deliver

The verse does not say a sacrifice is removed. It says:
“from the time the tamid is given over to the abomination that desolates…”

In Daniel 12:11 specifically:
- **“They shall be taken away”** refers to the wicked departing.
- **“Continually being given over”** refers to the faithful who do not side with the beast, continually handed over to persecution and oppression because of the wicked’s actions and God’s allowance.
- The **wicked are the subject of departure**, the **faithful are the object of giving over**, highlighting persecution and divine testing rather than ritual sacrifice.

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## Expanded Explanatory Integration — Day and Night, Sacrificial Offering, and Judgment

The continual giving over has a **sacrificial and juridical aspect**. Revelation 6:11 portrays the faithful **offered up under the altar**, crying, “How long, O Lord, until You judge and avenge our blood?” Similarly, Revelation 13 emphasizes **worship of the beast day and night**, paralleling the **persistent exaltation of evil** allowed by God. This aligns with Daniel’s “continual” (tamid), showing **unceasing oppression** and **spiritual testing**.

The faithful, continually given over (Daniel 11:31) and “taken away” (Daniel 12:11), **experience ongoing trial and persecution**, analogous to a sacrificial offering. This **corporate suffering** mirrors **Christ’s perfected body offered before God** (Colossians 1:24; 1 Corinthians 12), culminating in the **neutralization of the man of sin** (2 Thessalonians 2:8) and the ultimate presentation of the faithful **blameless and sanctified**.

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## I. Daniel 8:11–13 — My Translation & Hebrew Alignment

**My Translation (8:11–13):**
> “As high as the chief of the host, he will be made great by the some, being lifted up continually, and the others he shall cast away from the holy space.
> The host were given over to him, because of the continual transgression, that he may cast down truth and prosper.
> How long will be the vision of the continual transgression of the desolation, the giving both of the sanctuary, and the hosts to be trampled on, and he said to me, 2300 evenings, and mornings; then shall be made righteous the holy.”

**Hebrew Word-for-Word Alignment:**

| Hebrew | Function / English Alignment |
|--------|------------------------------|
| וְעַד שַׂר־הַצָּבָא | “As high as the chief of the host” — idiomatic expression of rank |
| הִגְדִּיל | “he will be made great” — Hiphil verb, causative “exalt” |
| וּמִמֶּנּוּ הוּרָם | “by the some, being lifted up” — instrumental; “some” = agents exalting him |
| הַתָּמִיד | “continually” — denotes ongoing exaltation, oppression, or trial |
| וְהֻשְׁלַךְ | “and the others he shall cast away” — faithful removed from sacred space |
| מְכוֹן מִקְדָּשׁוֹ | “from the holy space” — location of persecution/defilement |
| וְצָבָא תִּנָּתֵן | “the host were given over” — passive causative; continual giving over to wickedness |
| עַל הַתָּמִיד | “because of the continual transgression” — links the oppression to ongoing national sin |
| וְיָשַׁגֶּה | “that he may cast down truth and prosper” — describes effect of his power |
| 2300 עֶרֶב וָבֹקֶר | “2300 evenings and mornings” — prophetic time marker |
| וְנִצְדְּקוּ | “then shall be made righteous” — culmination for holy ones |
| הַקֹּדֶשׁ | “the holy” — faithful remnant (stars), not sanctuary |

**Grammatical Proof:**
- **Hiphil verbs** indicate causative action linking subject, instrument, and object.
- **Tamid** modifies ongoing action; not ritualistic.
- Instrumental use (e.g., “by the some, being lifted up”) distinguishes agents from objects.
- Word order preserves **causal and temporal flow**, matching continual exaltation and persecution.

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## II. Daniel 11:31 — My Translation & Hebrew

**My Translation (11:31):**
> “And forces for him shall serve, and shall profane the sanctuary fortress; then they shall be taken away, being continually given over to the abomination that causes desolation.”

**Hebrew Word-for-Word Alignment:**

| Hebrew | Function / English Alignment |
|--------|------------------------------|
| יַעַבְדוּ לוֹ | “forces for him shall serve” — instrumental causation |
| וְיְחַלְּלוּ מָצוּדָה | “and shall profane the sanctuary fortress” — sacred space / holy place |
| וְיִנָּתְנוּ | “shall be given over” — passive causative; continual oppression of faithful |
| וְהוּשְׁלַכוּ | “taken” — outcome of being given over; removed from sacred space |
| שִׁקּוּץ מְשֹׁמֵם | “to the abomination that causes desolation” — true object of cessation/judgment |

**Explanatory Note:**
- The faithful are **continually given over** to wickedness, then **taken away**—this mirrors the Daniel 8 pattern of trampled stars.
- The sanctuary/fortress is the **sacred space**, emphasizing spiritual and covenantal violation.
- The Hebrew distinguishes between **agents (forces, wicked)**, **instrument (given over)**, and **object (abomination of desolation)**.

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## III. Daniel 12:11 — My Translation & Hebrew

**My Translation (12:11):**
> “And the wise shall understand from that time that they shall be taken away; continually being given over to the abomination, that causing the desolation, for one thousand two hundred and ninety days.”

**Hebrew Word-for-Word Alignment:**

| Hebrew | Function / English Alignment |
|--------|------------------------------|
| וְנִבְהֲלוּ הַחֲכָמִים | “the wise shall understand” — recognition of prophetic pattern |
| מֵעֵת הוּא | “from that time” — temporal marker |
| וְנִנָּתְנוּ | “shall be given over” — continual passive, oppression/persecution |
| לַשִּׁקּוּץ הַמְשֹׁמֵם | “to the abomination causing desolation” — object of the giving over |
| לְמֵאָה עֶשְׂרִים וְתִשְׁעַת יָמִים | “for 1,290 days” — prophetic duration |

**Explanatory Note:**
- Reflects **continual giving over** like 11:31 and Daniel 8.
- **“They shall be taken away”** — wicked depart.
- **“Continually given over”** — faithful handed over for persecution due to wickedness.
- This clarifies that the **subject (they) is the wicked**, the **object (them) is the faithful**, showing divine testing and persecution.
- The faithful **experience unrelenting trial**, emphasizing divine allowance of evil.
- “Taken away” corresponds to **removal from position, exposure to enemies, or captivity**, consistent with the Hebrew syntax of נִנָּתְנוּ.

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## IV. Theological Integration — Daniel 9:27 & Sacrificial Offering

**My Translation (9:27):**
> “And He shall cause to prevail the covenant with the many, for week one and a half of the week, and He shall cause to cease—by the sacrificial offering—even upon wings—the abominations of desolation, until the consummation, and that which is determined is poured out in desolation.”

**Key Points:**
1. **Sacrificial Offering Instrumental:** Not the object of cessation; rather, the offering **enables the ending of abominations**.
2. **Continual Giving Over:** Aligns with 11:31 and 12:11; faithful are **continually subjected** while evil is lifted up.
3. **Man of Sin Neutralization:** The offering/presentation **culminates in 2 Thessalonians 2:8**, paralyzing the power of the man of sin.
4. **Wings / Preservation:** Faithful are **caught up, preserved, and offered** (Revelation 6:11; 7:9–15).
5. **Corporate Body of Christ:** Suffering is shared corporately (1 Cor 12; Col 1) and presented holy before God.
6. **927 Reference:** Aligns with Daniel 9:27 timeframe; the offering, covenantal endurance, and cessation of abominations are part of the same prophetic period.

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## V. Conclusion — Grammar, Theology, and Exposition

- **Grammar & Syntax:** Hiphil verbs, instrumental usage, and word order consistently show **continual giving over**, **taking away**, and **abominations as objects**, not ritual sacrifice.
- **Theology:** God allows continual evil to test and refine the faithful, **offered as a sacrificial presentation**, while evil is exalted and then ultimately neutralized.
- **Expository Flow:** Daniel 8:11–13 → 9:27 → 11:31 → 12:11 → Revelation 6, 7, 13 → 2 Thess 2:8. **All threads converge**: continual exaltation of evil, continual giving over of the faithful, sacrificial offering of the body of Christ, preservation, and final judgment.
- **Practical Implication:** The faithful’s suffering, perseverance, and offering are **integral to the unfolding of God’s redemptive plan**, fully consistent with Hebrew grammar, prophetic word order, and theological coherence.

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# Daniel & Revelation Integrated Exposition — Charts & Notes

| Verse | Hebrew Key Terms | English Translation | Grammatical Function | Theological / Explanatory Notes |
|-------|-----------------|-------------------|--------------------|--------------------------------|
| Daniel 8:11 | הִגְדִּיל, הַתָּמִיד, וְהֻשְׁלַךְ, מְכוֹן מִקְדָּשׁוֹ | “He will be exalted continually; and the others shall be cast away from the holy space” | Hiphil verbs, circumstantial modifier | Exaltation of the little horn; faithful (stars/host) trampled; continual = persistent activity, not ritual |
| Daniel 8:13 | וְצָבָא תִּנָּתֵן | “the host were given over” | Passive causative | Faithful are continually given over to oppression; shows divine allowance of evil |
| Daniel 9:27 | יַשְׁבִּית, זֶבַח וּמִנְחָה, שִׁקּוּצִים מְשֹׁמֵם | “He shall cause to cease—by the sacrificial offering—even upon wings—the abominations of desolation” | Hiphil verb + instrumental | Sacrificial offering = instrumental; abominations = object; culmination of judgment & man of sin neutralization; aligns with 927 timeframe |
| Daniel 11:31 | וְיִנָּתְנוּ, וְהוּשְׁלַכוּ, שִׁקּוּץ מְשֹׁמֵם | “Faithful shall be given over, continually taken away to the abomination causing desolation” | Passive causative; Hiphil | Faithful continually handed over to enemies; sanctuary defiled; continual = ongoing persecution/testing |
| Daniel 12:11 | וְנִנָּתְנוּ | “Continually being given over” | Passive causative | Wicked depart (“they shall be taken away”), faithful continually given over (“them”); persecution lasts 1,290 days; continual = persistent divine allowance of evil |
| Revelation 6:11 | — | “How long, O Lord, until You judge and avenge our blood?” | — | Saints offered under the altar; parallels continual giving over; sacrificial presentation |
| Revelation 13:5–8 | — | “They worship the beast day and night” | — | Continual exaltation of evil; divine allowance for testing faithful; mirrors tamid in Daniel passages |

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### Key Concepts & Theological Links:

1. **Continual (tamid)** = persistent activity of oppression or exaltation; not ritual.
2. **Given over / Taken away (נִנָּתֵן / הוּשְׁלַכוּ)** = faithful subjected to trial, persecution, and removal from sacred space; wicked depart, faithful handed over.
3. **Sacrificial Offering** = instrumental means by which God neutralizes abominations and executes judgment (Daniel 9:27; 1 Cor 12; Col 1).
4. **Revelation Parallels** = faithful offered under the altar (6:11), preserved (7:9–15), evil exalted day and night (13:5–8).
5. **Man of Sin Neutralization** = achieved through the offering and preservation of the faithful (2 Thess 2:8).
6. **Heavenly / Earthly Flow** = continual oppression (Daniel), corporate offering (Church), eventual presentation of holy ones, final judgment.

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**Visual Flow:**

1. **Daniel 8 → Exaltation & continual oppression of the faithful**
2. **Daniel 9:27 → Sacrificial offering instrumental in cessation of abominations**
3. **Daniel 11:31 → Faithful continually given over; sanctuary defiled**
4. **Daniel 12:11 → Wicked depart; faithful continually given over; duration marked**
5. **Revelation 6:11 → Faithful offered under altar, calling out for justice**
6. **Revelation 13 → Continual worship of evil, testing space for faithful**
7. **2 Thess 2:8 → Culmination: neutralization of man of sin**
 

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May my prayer be set before you like incense;
may the lifting up of my hands be like the evening sacrifice. (Psalm 141:2)

Does this help interpret the meaning of the word sacrifice for you? Appears the passage refers to doing away with the daily worship or may be a figure of speech for weekly church.
 
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