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Is America a police state (if you are not white)?

Larniavc

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The only 'brown skinned people' who are in fear are the ones breaking the law.
Doesn’t seem to the case based on the interviews I described up thread. But I guess you don’t live in Minnesota.
 
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Yes, it is. You are openly admitting that your intention is to delay a federal law enforcement. Which is obstruction in accordance with 18 U.S.C. § 1510.
That is obstruction by compelling a third party to withhold information, lie, and not speak to authorities through bribery and intimidation. It says I can’t execute improper influence on another to prevent a criminal investigation (specifically an investigation involving myself or parties of my interest).

Obviously none of what I said that applies to what I said.
Now, you know I am black. I respectfully ask that you stop trying to be my female white knight trying to come to my rescue.
I am a woman and daughter of a first born American and the granddaughter of immigrants who fled Nazi Germany under political asylum. I demand you stop mansplaining concepts that I clearly know better than you do and not enjoy the fullness of my rights because you’re threatened by it.

If you have a problem with it, I suggest that in the unlikely event I an practicing malicious compliance while they are investigating you, you furnish everything they ask for (regardless of if they’re allowed to ask for it or not) and degrade your rights in exchange for their approval. It will end their interaction with you and they’ll move along, with me in tow.
 
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Sorry. I think it is hilariously ironic that the ICE officer's are more ethnically diverse than the protesters trying to impede them.
How do you know what my ethnicity, besides my declaring I’m white and my mother is first generation from Germany, is?

And saying “well that’s a white woman” is all well and good, but my skin color doesn’t reveal that 100 ago my family on my mothers side was doing exactly what I’m doing, but in Germany. Just because I’m white doesn’t mean I’m not ethnically diverse and it certainly doesn’t mean I have no history.
 
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Sorry. I think it is hilariously ironic that the ICE officer's are more ethnically diverse than the protesters trying to impede them.
Do you have the break down of ethnicities among ICE agents and protesters?
 
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I’ve just been listening to interviews with people in Minnesota. Lot’s people afraid to leave their homes without taking passports, whistles and pepper spray. People afraid to leave the house at all for fear of being snatched by unidentified masked men and ending up in a different state or country before getting to call someone.

But in the interviews no one who was white expressed any fear or experiences of being held without charge.

The neighbourhoods are crumbling as businesses are disrupted and failing because of the wandering masked groups going door to door and stopping (non-white) people in the street demanding papers. Drones flying overhead over groups of people in the streets.

How long will it take criminals to realise that they can go about their business in broad daylight wearing similar outfits and snatching victims to rob or worse?

How long until someone goes ballistic with a gun to defend themselves from these masked men?

Is this America?
All of your concerns stated is the post would be of no concern if many of those so call frightened citizens were not bombarded by inaccurate rhetoric and stirred into a reactionary frenzy. Oh yeah I left out the paid agitators . This is a contrived non organic riotous uprising which be a non news event if local law enforcement and politicians did their sworn duties and big money in favor of chaos were not involved. Let’s not forget the part biased reporting by fake news outlets plays in this debacle.
 
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Blowing whistles, following ICE, honking horns, and videoing their operations are all protected First Amendment activities.
Yep, and don't forget the Fourth Amendment rights. I used to think I was obligated to allow an officer request to search the car when asked, plus I didn't want to appear guilty. My son enlightened me about my rights, and I'm eager to exercise them. But I will obey and comply with law enforcement until they violate my rights.
 
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Do you have the break down of ethnicities among ICE agents and protesters?
Why not? Don't liberal breakdown the ethnicities of people in the name of racism? The racism argument doesn't work when you realize some are rasist but the majority are not, because all these people are woven into society. The rainbow arresting the rainbow and the rainbow doing the crime.
stop mansplaining
Is there such a thing as womansplaining? If so, could you give me some examples?
 
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Why not? Don't liberal breakdown the ethnicities of people in the name of racism? The racism argument doesn't work when you realize some are rasist but the majority are not, because all these people are woven into society. The rainbow arresting the rainbow and the rainbow doing the crime.
How is this an answer to my question? Can you present that breakdown? I asked it because the previous poster can only say what they said meaningfully if they have that breakdown. Are ICE officers more ethnically diverse than the protesters?
 
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I assume you were telling the truth. Was i wrong?
Read both sentences and try again. Just because I’m white doesn’t mean you know the whole of my ethnicity especially since I’ve spoken of direct descendants of just my mother.

Why is categorizing people by skin color and ranking that to determine degrees to which they should be listened to so very important to you?
 
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Is there such a thing as womansplaining? If so, could you give me some examples?
I’m sure there is and if it comes up, I’ll let you know.
 
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Are ICE officers more ethnically diverse than the protesters?
What does being more ethnically diverse have to do with anything unless you're trying to win a beauty contest? We have diversity in every job in America, unless your vision of diversity is an all-Black, Brown, or Yellow law enforcement?
 
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What does being more ethnically diverse have to do with anything unless you're trying to win a beauty contest? We have diversity in every job in America, unless your vision of diversity is an all-Black, Brown, or Yellow law enforcement?
Ask @Oompa Loompa. Why are you asking me, I only asked if they had the data for making that statement?
 
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Oh yeah I left out the paid agitators .
Nonexistent. Show me the money trail.
This is a contrived non organic riotous uprising which be a non news event if local law enforcement and politicians did their sworn duties and big money in favor of chaos were not involved.
Local law enforcement is being harassed and arrested by ICE, who is the problem.
 
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Read both sentences and try again. Just because I’m white doesn’t mean you know the whole of my ethnicity especially since I’ve spoken of direct descendants of just my mother.

Why is categorizing people by skin color and ranking that to determine degrees to which they should be listened to so very important to you?
You said you were a white woman, so I called you a white woman. How do you define "white?" Secondly, what makes you think i was directing my comment to you?
 
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Ask @Oompa Loompa. Why are you asking me, I only asked if they had the data for making that statement?

 
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You said you were a white woman, so I called you a white woman. How do you define "white?" Secondly, what makes you think i was directing my comment to you?
You were talking about ethnic diversity, which apparently according to you is only reflected in skin color. Why do you think white is a single, unified ethnicity?

Secondly, you dirty posted with no @ to anybody specifically, which means anybody can reply as you’re directing it to nobody specifically. The fact I replied and you continued to argue means all those comments are directed at me. If you didn’t mean me, you’d have simply said “I was actually referring to somebody else.”
 
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