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Trump threatens 25% tariff on European allies until Denmark sells Greenland to US

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This is so frustrating. The answer is simple. The USA talks to Greenland about increasing their military bases there. Greenland has agreed to that but they do not want to become citizens of the USA. So set up the bases and forget about taking over their territory. (An apology for suggesting it, in the first place, might be in order, but the Greenlanders probably would be generous enough to overlook that, if it is not forthcoming.)

Meanwhile it might be time for the 25th.
 
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America has bought large amounts of land in our history. This ain't nothing new. If America doesn't control access to the shipping lanes in the Arctic Ocean aroundGreenland, then Russia and China most surely shall. Which option is the most preferable one?
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Trump himself has said that global warming is fake, so why would the US need to spend billions controlling shipping lanes in the artic ocean - newly created by an issue he doesn't believe in?
 
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Vambram said:
www.westernjournal.com

Trump Publishes Greenland Text Messages from France's Macron and NATO Chief Mark Rutte

President Donald Trump posted text messages that he received from French President Emmanuel Macron and NATO Secretary-General Mark Rutte.
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You know what I will definitely NOT do if you send me a PM? I won't post it in the general forum. Out of common courtesy. I'd expect the same courtesy from you and I'd suggest that it would be automatically forthcoming.

Trump? Well, Trump and common courtesy don't really go together, now do they.
 
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rebornfree said:
This is so frustrating. The answer is simple. The USA talks to Greenland about increasing their military bases there. Greenland has agreed to that but they do not want to become citizens of the USA. So set up the bases and forget about taking over their territory. (An apology for suggesting it, in the first place, might be in order, but the Greenlanders probably would be generous enough to overlook that, if it is not forthcoming.)

Meanwhile it might be time for the 25th.
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Trump has been offered plenty of off ramps to his escalation. He's not interested.
 
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Bradskii said:
You know what I will definitely NOT do if you send me a PM? I won't post it in the general forum. Out of common courtesy. I'd expect the same courtesy from you and I'd suggest that it would be automatically forthcoming.

Trump? Well, Trump and common courtesy don't really go together, now do they.
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I have never sent you a pm.
 
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Vambram said:
If America doesn't control access to the shipping lanes in the Arctic Ocean aroundGreenland, then Russia and China most surely shall.
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This is both a false dichotomy and a claim not support by evidence.

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Which option is the most preferable one?
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Neither.

Principles of free navigation under international maritime law are the most preferable one. Specifically, articles 24, 42 and 87 of the Convention on the Law of the Sea.

If the US had removed its noodle from its posterior in the 1980s (or 1990s, or 2000s) and actually ratified the convention (which is helped draft and has already signed), then it would have a legal leg to stand on.

As it stands, the US' wishy-washy stance of the convention (accepting it as part of international law but not ratifying it) undercuts its position on maritime law.
 
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Vambram said:
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This seems relevant:
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Bradskii said:
Is that meant to avoid addressing Trump's complete lack of political courtesy?
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I don't believe that he lacks any political courtesy at all.
 
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Vambram said:
Not relevant at all. That was 10 years ago.
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Cruz showed himself to be a spineless sycophant 10 years ago - I've seen nothing to suggest that he's changed.
 
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Cruz showed himself to be a spineless sycophant 10 years ago - I've seen nothing to suggest that he's changed.
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Your biased opinion on Senator Cruz is noted.
 
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Your biased opinion on Senator Cruz is noted.
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Indeed - I've made no secret of my contempt for the man. Not sure why you think his words would carry any weight.
 
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Vambram said:
I don't believe that he lacks any political courtesy at all.
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What you believe runs counter to the reality that the rest of us see. It runs counter to the evidence. It's not a case of belief anymore with this guy. It's whether you accept the facts or not.
 
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