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New documents shed light on Renee Good’s ties to ICE monitoring efforts in Minneapolis

Yeshua HaDerekh

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Wife. No quote marks required. Let's at least be accurate about such simple details.
Quotes stay...but I can see why YOU dont agree with it...
 
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Just because she feels responsible,rightly or wrongly, for what happened doesn't mean she bears any criminal guilt.

Agent Ross is making similar amounts from crowd funding. The difference being if course his spouse wasn't killed.
I disagree. why would his spouse have been killed? She was not out there agitating and blocking traffic! The difference was he was doing his job...
 
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Quotes stay...but I can see why YOU dont agree with it...
Well that would still be factually incorrect. She is her wife. You don't have to like it, but it doesn't make it any less true.
 
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Well that would still be factually incorrect. She is her wife. You don't have to like it, but it doesn't make it any less true.
Not according to Scripture.
 
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Not according to Scripture.
Scripture doesn't matter. Christianity doesn't have exclusive rights to marriage. She's her actual wife, no matter what any religious text says. That's the reality of it.
 
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Sure, you go to where they're going, and then when their vehicle is a stop, you pull around them and then attempt to block them by leaving your SUV cockeyed on the road in hopes that they can't get around.

Her wife's statement on the cell phone recording of "Go ahead and take a pic of the license plate, we haven't change it since this morning" and "It'll be the same one when you see us again later" would indicate it wasn't their first encounter with ICE that day, and they intended on continuing to pester them.
That isn't what the wife said, is it? This is what I heard:
"We don't change the plates every morning, just so you know, it will be the same plate when you come and talk to us later, that's fine, US citizen, former [something], you want to come at us?"

Completely different message than the one you tried to paint them with. They think ICE is going to visit them, there's no statement where they say that their intent is "continuing to pester them". There is no "since this morning" alluding to that ICE have seen their plate earlier that the day.


All your commentary regarding her statements are spun from thin air. Why not be factual?


It's literally what's getting discussed in the CNN article that I opened the thread with.

In her capacity as a school board member, she was disseminating documents to other parents offering "noncooperation training"

One of the documents linked by the school appears to be a message to parents dated December 16 that begins, “Thank you to families who have been on ICE watch, helping to protect their neighbors.”

Another document linked in the same memo suggests “creative tactics,” noting that “Crowds, props, traffic, and noise can make detentions difficult, sometimes ICE vehicles can’t move (‘whoops!’).”

What would you make of that last part?

If I was disseminating documents aimed at teaching people how to be disruptive (directed towards a group I didn't like), and ended it with "hey, you know, sometimes people get flat tires, catch my drift?", how do you think that would be interpreted?


But, that aside, there's video evidence of how obnoxious the methodology is. If someone was upset with you, and they pulled their car out sideways in the street, while they're passenger hopped out and started trash talking, and a bunch of other people sounding off megaphones and blowing whistles really loud so you can't hear yourself think, pretty sure that's generally recognized as obnoxious behavior.
 
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Scripture doesn't matter. Christianity doesn't have exclusive rights to marriage. She's her actual wife, no matter what any religious text says. That's the reality of it.
Of course scripture matters. Marriage between a man and a woman is only valid within Christianity, Judaism and Islam. What does wife mean then...who or what are they married under? Are they some pagan religion. You mean wife in the non-religious, not biblical sense? So what I think does not matter...only what they think...gotcha
 
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I agree completely. I just wish she stayed home instead so she would still be with us.
Absolutely. Anytime you inject yourself into law enforcement operations to disrupt, interfere, obstruct and even assault then you have to know things can go sideways.

What we have going on is people trying to stop lawful actions by the government. The enforcement of laws duly passed by we the people through our representatives is the job of LE. And doing what these leftist lunatics are doing is criminal.

Can you imagine if these lunatics acted this way with all LE?

All they want is chaos.
 
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Her ex father-in-law says that she wouldn't have been there if she had been walking in the spirit. Let's face it. She was looking for trouble and found it. Stupid games earn stupid prizes.
Total tragedy that didn't have to happen. It happened because she was there interferring, harassing and obstructing LE. Then she drove her car into one of them. If she would have just stayed home, or even just marched around on the sidewalk with a sign etc., this wouldn't have happened.
 
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Some of our fellow citizens have been concerned that the way the President is choosing to uphold the law, seems to break-down the law to do so.
How so? What are they doing that is breaking-down the law? And ehat does that mean anyway?
 
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Why should we remain silent both in society and in the government?
No one is asking you to remain silent. If you feel something is going wrong then speak up. But there is a GIGANTIC difference between marching in peaceful protests and driving your car around chasing police, screaming in their faces, blocking their vehicles, blocking their path, obstructing their work, interferring with their jobs, and doxing and threatening them and their families.
 
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Practically speaking, if you have any sort of appreciation for the westernized culture and everything it's given us, and don't want to see that eroded,
Oh, so you're one of *those* people...
 
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Of course scripture matters. Marriage between a man and a woman is only valid within Christianity, Judaism and Islam. What does wife mean then...who or what are they married under? Are they some pagan religion. You mean wife in the non-religious, not biblical sense? So what I think does not matter...only what they think...gotcha
thats funny...marriage predates those three by milenium....
 
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Of course scripture matters. Marriage between a man and a woman is only valid within Christianity, Judaism and Islam.
Only valid in those cases huh? I think Mesopotamia as a historical example and Asia in general would like to have a word with you.
What does wife mean then...who or what are they married under? Are they some pagan religion. You mean wife in the non-religious, not biblical sense?
Civil law, like everyone. Including Christians. The fact that you or anyone was married in a church is merely part of the ritual that they choose to go through, the married status comes from civil law.
So what I think does not matter.
True, it does not. Your thoughts on their marital status don't matter, neither does mine or anyone else's. They're married. And that's that pretty much.
 
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Only valid in those cases huh? I think Mesopotamia as a historical example and Asia in general would like to have a word with you.

Civil law, like everyone. Including Christians. The fact that you or anyone was married in a church is merely part of the ritual that they choose to go through, the married status comes from civil law.

True, it does not. Your thoughts on their marital status don't matter, neither does mine or anyone else's. They're married. And that's that pretty much.
even with CHristianity it wasn't till 1100's or so that the church even cared about it and it became a big deal with ceremonies and such.
 
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even with CHristianity it wasn't till 1100's or so that the church even cared about it and it became a big deal with ceremonies and such.
Adam, Moses,Abraham , and many others would disagree
 
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Adam, Moses,Abraham , and many others would disagree
said church, those were not churches. for the first 1100 years there was no concept of church marriage within Christianity, it was a secular thing, just abortion wasn't a thing the church cared about for a long time. This whole, "marriage is a christian thing." is just nonsense and revisionist history ignoring countries that had nothing to do with judiasm and such having forms of marriage.
 
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