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Grinning anti-ICE agitator arrested after allegedly punching Florida trooper as DeSantis warns: ‘This is not Minneapolis’
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Did I even alluded to human life being worth less than assets? Straw man much? Is violence restricted to assets? Do you think that the mom and pop stores that the agitators sometime loot have no victims? How about the cars that they light on fire?
And, btw, what is happening right now has nothing to do with Christianity. In fact I would posit that the worse violent agitators are not religious.
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Again - can you provide a quote where he incited violence? My guess is the answer is "no".
And he used the F word once, did he not? "Profanity laden" implies that he used profanity many times. Either way, using profanity /= inciting violence.
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Did you not read my post? I provided one.
So how many times has someone use profanity to make it profanity laden? Maybe he is just your hero for cursing at ICE? Seems like you are a lefty.
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Lol. Enough said.
Swearing is inciting violence, because you say so.
And his speech was profanity laden, even if he only swore once. Why? Because you say so. Not because of the standard meaning of the word laden.
If you can't make an argument based on objective reality, then you're better not to make one at all.
Laden: heavily or abundantly loaded
Definition of LADEN
carrying a large load or burden : heavily or abundantly loaded —usually used with with —often used in combination… See the full definition
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His words including his cursing incites violence because the intent is to cause public alarm and provoke nuisance action against a group of people, namely ICE but generally against all federal agents. That is not right. He should be the voice of reason and calm.
If you feel differently then that’s your right.
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You mean the mayor that was saying that they needed to fight ICE in the streets?
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Again - can you provide direct quotes and reasoning to support this? As I said in my very first post, I could be wrong here - as I haven't watched the entirety of his speech. When you have been asked to provide evidence, you only say that he swore, and that his speech incited violence. How? Which words did he say that called for violence? You have not provided anything yet to support this, only your words and the fact that he swore. And then you seem to get upset when I don't just agree with you.
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Watch it you are making the folks from the left face reality because until now they seem to have forgotten what inciting violence consists off or means.
Strike one. That is very clearly not what he said:
"We're in a position right now where we have residents that are asking the very limited number of police officers that we have to fight ICE agents on the street," he added. "We cannot be at a place right now in America where we have two governmental entities that are literally fighting one another."
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Already did.
Because he swore and told Federal agents to get the “blank” out of his city (or something like it). This as I stated has become a call to action by activists to confront, sometimes violently, federal agents. If you can’t see that then we have a very different definition of violence. Secondly, he does not have the authority to demand that federal agents leave Minneapolis so even his words are bunk. Words have meaning.
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So, given that "words have meaning" - I assume that you disagree with JD Vance saying that ICE will "go door-to-door" checking immigration status, when they don't have any authority to do so?
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Yep. I disagree with Vance. However, any one can go knocking on doors but that does not mean that they have to open the door.
This reminds me of the old Soviet Cold War movies where the Russian soldiers or police would demand “your papers, comrade”.
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Ah... you mean the "or something like it" line in the post below?
Again - telling ICE agents to get the F out of your city does not mean you want people to use violence to do it. You are reading that into it.
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You must be joking. I know you said you have not kept up with it but this has been in the news constantly since it happened. You really have not heard what he said? My paraphrase was very close.
Ah so you have heard it. That makes your questions disingenuous. I’m not reading anything into his statements since it has become a battle cry for the activists. It seems you are purposely ignoring the obvious.
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