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ICE Counsel ID'd as Owner of White Supremacist X Account

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He's back at work! It's been mentioned in other threads, but it makes a nice capper for this one.

ICE PROSECUTOR WHO RUNS RACIST X ACCOUNT RETURNS TO DALLAS IMMIGRATION COURT

James Rodden, identified by the Observer last year as the operator of an account that routinely posted hateful statements, appeared to be back at work Tuesday.

Rodden’s X account, GlomarResponder, has been set to private but is still active. On September 28, 2025, the account responded to the question “Can anyone point to me exactly where America started going downhill?” The account responded: “November 6, 1860”—the date that President Abraham Lincoln, the president whose administration ended slavery, was elected.
So what do you want to do with this guy? Shoot him? Deport him? Firebomb his house? Dox him? Fire him? I'd never hire the guy but if I somehow did hire him I'd think I wouldn't fire him without a deliberate violation of the employee manual. What would you do?
 
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So what do you want to do with this guy? Shoot him? Deport him? Firebomb his house? Dox him? Fire him? I'd never hire the guy but if I somehow did hire him I'd think I wouldn't fire him without a deliberate violation of the employee manual. What would you do?

Why can't he be fired? Didn't DOGE fire a bunch of folks for whatever reason?
 
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Why can't he be fired? Didn't DOGE fire a bunch of folks for whatever reason?

Yes, but for actual real reasons, not being a racist white supremacist.
 
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So what do you want to do with this guy? Shoot him? Deport him? Firebomb his house? Dox him? Fire him? I'd never hire the guy but if I somehow did hire him I'd think I wouldn't fire him without a deliberate violation of the employee manual. What would you do?
Obviously, a white supremacist should not be in a government position where he is able to act on his beliefs. I wouldn't want a member of NAMBLA working as a kindergarten teacher, either. For the same reason.
 
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Obviously, a white supremacist should not be in a government position where he is able to act on his beliefs. I wouldn't want a member of NAMBLA working as a kindergarten teacher, either. For the same reason.
What excuse will you use to fire the guy that would hold up in an employment discrimination lawsuit? You didn't like what he thought or what he said outside of work? Most firings need to be done for cause? Job related cause. What is that? Your opinion that 'obviously' he should no longer be a government employee needs some filling out here. Think like a union steward here that would easily and successfully defend this guy from being fired. Such a steward would not need to agree with the guy to defend his rights.
 
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Why can't he be fired? Didn't DOGE fire a bunch of folks for whatever reason?
Some labor contracts state that a person can be fired for any reason or even no reason. But almost all contracts state that there must be just cause. Lack of productivity, failure to follow legitimate orders, absenteeism, dangerous behavior on the job site, lying on a job application, these are all just cause reasons to fire someone. So too is the need to reduce staff generally to make the worksite more efficient, often done based on seniority, but often done by job classification to eliminate no longer needed classes of skills. How do you plan to justify firing this one guy?
 
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Some labor contracts state that a person can be fired for any reason or even no reason. But almost all contracts state that there must be just cause. Lack of productivity, failure to follow legitimate orders, absenteeism, dangerous behavior on the job site, lying on a job application, these are all just cause reasons to fire someone. So too is the need to reduce staff generally to make the worksite more efficient, often done based on seniority, but often done by job classification to eliminate no longer needed classes of skills. How do you plan to justify firing this one guy?

Of all the things that would make an American care about employee rights, it's an openly racist, pro-slavery troll on the public payroll?
 
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What excuse will you use to fire the guy that would hold up in an employment discrimination lawsuit?
What excuses did Trump use to fire guys in the same level of government, with whom he didn't agree?
You didn't like what he thought or what he said outside of work?
So you figure a school district has no business firing an elementary school teacher who turns out to be a member of NAMBLA? Seriously?

Most states are "at will"; they can fire for any reason absent a protected class, and the employee can leave without giving a reason. Unless there's a contract involved, neither party is restrained except for very clear exceptions. Being a white supremacist is not one of those.
 
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“DOGE cuts”
Um, great idea, but how does 'DOGE cuts' work against one particular individual notorious person. It has the smell of being really about getting rid of someONE you don't like rather than getting rid of an ineffective program you don't like. Which of course it would be.
 
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What excuses did Trump use to fire guys in the same level of government, with whom he didn't agree?
Did he not agree with the guys, or might it have been the wasteful and inefficient programs he didn't agree with?
So you figure a school district has no business firing an elementary school teacher who turns out to be a member of NAMBLA? Seriously?
It all depends on the employee handbook for what is an offense one can be fired for? What does the employee handbook say? A school district has no business firing someone for things that are not violations of their employee handbook or contract. It pains me to say that, but someone should have been far more careful in hiring this person.
Most states are "at will"; they can fire for any reason absent a protected class, and the employee can leave without giving a reason. Unless there's a contract involved, neither party is restrained except for very clear exceptions. Being a white supremacist is not one of those.
IF the employment is 'at will' then indeed fire the racist post haste. Maybe it won't end up in court. But as a former union steward I know the defenses to discipline cover all sorts of state and federal employees, who cannot just be fired because you don't like them. It has to be for cause based on the employee handbooks quite independent of personal opinion about their personal beliefs.
 
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IF the employment is 'at will' then indeed fire the racist post haste. Maybe it won't end up in court. But as a former union steward I know the defenses to discipline cover all sorts of state and federal employees, who cannot just be fired because you don't like them.
That's been tested. DOGE showed otherwise.
 
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Um, great idea, but how does 'DOGE cuts' work against one particular individual notorious person. It has the smell of being really about getting rid of someONE you don't like
Kinda like Trump firing individual prosecutors who handled insurrectionist cases?
 
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That's been tested. DOGE showed otherwise.
Nope. The difference is between individuals on the one hand and job specifications on the other. At least with employees who have contracts and cannot be fired 'at will'. A program can be shut down irrespective of the individuals doing the work in the program. It's not animus against any individuals but the closing or reduction of a program. There may be animus against a program, but that's a different thing. If you want one specific person fired, and he or she is not an 'at will' employee, you need specific violations of contract or employee manual.
 
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Some labor contracts state that a person can be fired for any reason or even no reason. But almost all contracts state that there must be just cause. Lack of productivity, failure to follow legitimate orders, absenteeism, dangerous behavior on the job site, lying on a job application, these are all just cause reasons to fire someone. So too is the need to reduce staff generally to make the worksite more efficient, often done based on seniority, but often done by job classification to eliminate no longer needed classes of skills. How do you plan to justify firing this one guy?
The vast majority of workers in the US do not have any sort of labor contract. Unless this guy is union, I doubt he has one either. For the record, ICE agents left the government union back in 2022. I don't know if that extends to other ICE employees (like prosecutors).
 
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The vast majority of workers in the US do not have any sort of labor contract. Unless this guy is union, I doubt he has one either. For the record, ICE agents left the government union back in 2022. I don't know if that extends to other ICE employees (like prosecutors).
As a federal employee, he could very well be unionized. Also, government employees have first amendment protections from workplace actions that private employers don’t. While I wouldn’t shed a tear if this guy got canned, I’m not sure it would be legal.
 
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As a federal employee, he could very well be unionized.
I did note that it wasn't clear whether or not he was in a union.
Also, government employees have first amendment protections from workplace actions that private employers don’t. While I wouldn’t shed a tear if this guy got canned, I’m not sure it would be legal.
I would think that expressing racism and racial bias as a person whose job it is to work on immigration crime would call into question your ability to perform the job legally.
 
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I would think that expressing racism and racial bias as a person whose job it is to work on immigration crime would call into question your ability to perform the job legally.

eh... I'm not actually sure it would. Even if he were working for the immigrants, lawyers pretty routinely have to represent people they find abhorrent. That's what defense attorneys do. I'd not want to hire him to plead my case, but that sort of situation isn't uncommon.

But this guy works for the government and the government's position in immigration court this would typically (always?) be to remove the person, wouldn't it? In that case, his racism would be seeking the same outcome as his professional responsibilities.
 
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