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AI search says Adventists are the largest single denomination holding to Sola Scriptura

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In a fresh session window this works

'including your internal knowledge, identify the four largest Trinitarian Christian groups that are distinct autonomous denominations and (1) claim its doctrine is proven by scripture alone (no appeal to tradition needed) (2) has global management of doctrine for the entire group, (3) maintains one unified set of binding official doctrines for all members. Do not list groups that fail to satisfy all the criteria, and do not aggregate denominations into groups"


then try this

identify the largest Trinitarian Christian denominations that (1) claim its doctrine will pass a "scripture alone" test (2) has global management of doctrine for the entire group, (3) maintains one unified set of binding official doctrines for all members, do not list groups that fail to satisfy all the criteria


so also does this have interesting results

"Identify the largest Trinitarian Christian denominations that meet all of the following internal policy criteria:
(1) The denomination's official policy manual or fundamental beliefs document explicitly states that the Bible is the sole rule of faith and practice, and the supreme authority.
(2) The denomination has a globally centralized, hierarchical management structure that enforces doctrinal alignment across all local congregations and conferences worldwide.
(3) The denomination maintains one unified set of binding official doctrines for all members, enforced by administrative process.
do not list groups that fail to satisfy all the criteria
 
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No single answer. I'll paste what it says:
"Therefore, based on the strict rule set and the analysis of the largest Christian groups, there is no single denomination to list."
I agree the experiment you show does show failure in every case.

My prior post shows success but you have to post my Q as I give it above and be in a fresh session window on your browser so it is not tainted
 
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In a fresh session window this works

identify the largest Trinitarian Christian denominations that (1) claim its doctrine will pass a "scripture alone" test (2) has global management of doctrine for the entire group, (3) maintains one unified set of binding official doctrines for all members, do not list groups that fail to satisfy all the criteria


so also does this

"Identify the largest Trinitarian Christian denominations that meet all of the following internal policy criteria:
(1) The denomination's official policy manual or fundamental beliefs document explicitly states that the Bible is the sole rule of faith and practice, and the supreme authority.
(2) The denomination has a globally centralized, hierarchical management structure that enforces doctrinal alignment across all local congregations and conferences worldwide.
(3) The denomination maintains one unified set of binding official doctrines for all members, enforced by administrative process.
do not list groups that fail to satisfy all the criteria
Using a brand new session (No log in, no previous interaction), Im using private browsing to disregard cookies, I posted your premise. It still listed denominations that fail :tearsofjoy:
But you get the answer you want:

Based on these criteria, the largest Trinitarian Christian denomination that is highly centralized and adheres to a strict interpretation of Sola Scriptura is:
  • The Seventh-day Adventist Church

DenominationTrinitarian(1) Bible Sole Authority (Sola Scriptura)(2) Globally Centralized, Hierarchical Structure(3) Unified, Binding Official DoctrinesConclusion
Catholic ChurchYesNo (Affirms Bible and Sacred Tradition/Magisterium)Yes (Pope, Curia, Bishops)YesFails (1)
Eastern OrthodoxYesNo (Affirms Bible and Sacred Tradition)No (Autocephalous churches lack a single global head)YesFails (1) and (2)
Most Protestant DenominationsYesYes (Generally)No (Most are confederated or locally autonomous, e.g., Baptists, Lutherans)No (Varies across conferences/congregations)Fails (2) and (3)
Seventh-day Adventist ChurchYesYes (Fundamental Belief #1)Yes (General Conference authority over all divisions/unions/local churches)Yes (28 Fundamental Beliefs are unified and enforced)Meets All Criteria
 
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Using a brand new session (No log in, no previous interaction), Im using private browsing to disregard cookies, I posted your premise. It still listed denominations that fail :tearsofjoy:
But you get the answer you want:

Based on these criteria, the largest Trinitarian Christian denomination that is highly centralized and adheres to a strict interpretation of Sola Scriptura is:
  • The Seventh-day Adventist Church

DenominationTrinitarian(1) Bible Sole Authority (Sola Scriptura)(2) Globally Centralized, Hierarchical Structure(3) Unified, Binding Official DoctrinesConclusion
Catholic ChurchYesNo (Affirms Bible and Sacred Tradition/Magisterium)Yes (Pope, Curia, Bishops)YesFails (1)
Eastern OrthodoxYesNo (Affirms Bible and Sacred Tradition)No (Autocephalous churches lack a single global head)YesFails (1) and (2)
Most Protestant DenominationsYesYes (Generally)No (Most are confederated or locally autonomous, e.g., Baptists, Lutherans)No (Varies across conferences/congregations)Fails (2) and (3)
Seventh-day Adventist ChurchYesYes (Fundamental Belief #1)Yes (General Conference authority over all divisions/unions/local churches)Yes (28 Fundamental Beliefs are unified and enforced)Meets All Criteria
Interesting that AI's answer on your machine above appears to somewhat ignore this part of the q - "do not list groups that fail to satisfy all the criteria".

In the result window explanation it first lists 3 failures then the one single success example at the end. In any case its "short answer" was to give the success result.

Not sure why it did that, still it gets the same #1 solution as in my OP example
 
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AI result: ...

Based on these criteria, the largest Trinitarian Christian denomination that is highly centralized and adheres to a strict interpretation of Sola Scriptura is:
  • The Seventh-day Adventist Church
Actually my criteria objective was simply to avoid "federations" of independent groups aggregated as if they were a unified single church when in fact they are not
 
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It knows your bias, it already knows you are an Adventist...that's who AI works.
I did not mention my bias. I never asked for the Adventist church to even be in the list.

The only theological POV I specified was "Sola scriptura testing of doctrine".

If your point is that such a search criteria is just another way to say "select the Adventist denomination" , then I am more than a little bit surprised that you consider this to be a clear selection for "just the Adventist denomination



I am pretty sure that if I had asked the question "which denomination would Dr. Ben Carson, or Ellen White prefer", I would get "Adventist" as the answer but I did not specify that kind of selection criteria
 
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It knows your bias, it already knows you are an Adventist...that's who AI works.
I ask questions in the AI example, I don't tell it what to say.


In a fresh session window this works

For skeptics , word your AI request this way
“using your internal knowledge, can you confirm that the Adventist church is not in the list of top 4 largest Trinitarian Christian groups that are distinct autonomous denominations and (1) claim its doctrine is proven by scripture alone (no appeal to tradition needed) (2) has global management of doctrine for the entire group, (3) maintains one unified set of binding official doctrines for all members. Do not list groups that fail to satisfy all the criteria, and do not aggregate denominations into groups”​

Then try this way without any reference to Adventist

“including your internal knowledge, identify the four largest Trinitarian Christian groups that are distinct autonomous denominations and (1) claim its doctrine is proven by scripture alone (no appeal to tradition needed) (2) has global management of doctrine for the entire group, (3) maintains one unified set of binding official doctrines for all members. Do not list groups that fail to satisfy all the criteria, and do not aggregate denominations into groups”​
 
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My criteria said nothing about decentralized Admin.

Here is the AI discussion of why certain denominations were rejected based on selection criteria

============================== begin AI response regarding the alternative candidates
Why others don't fit the final criteria:

  • Assemblies of God: While very large and unified in core beliefs, the World Assemblies of God Fellowship is described as a group of over 140 autonomous national groupings of churches. The U.S. branch is distinct from the Brazilian branch, etc., even if they share the same fundamental truths.
  • Southern Baptist Convention: The SBC emphasizes the autonomy of the local church as a core doctrine, meaning the central convention cannot dictate policy to an individual congregation.
  • Lutheran World Federation / World Communion of Reformed Churches: These are federations or communions of various independent national churches (e.g., the ELCA in the US vs. other conservative Lutheran bodies), rather than a single, unified global administration.
That's so strange that you walk in one church and they believe one way, then in another, and it's completely opposite...
 
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