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California Billionaires Are Leaving the State in Response to Proposed Wealth Tax

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“The ultrarich are leaving California as a result of a proposed billionaire tax. "Eat the rich" may be a popular rallying cry, but it's not viable public policy.

The ballot measure, which was submitted in November 2025 by Suzanne Jimenez, a health care union representative, would impose a one-time 5 percent tax on billionaires who were California residents as of the measure's tax "obligation date" of January 1. Even though the initiative has not yet passed, venture capitalist Chamath Palihapitiya estimates that $1 trillion of billionaire wealth "has left California" in advance of the measure's tax obligation date. California billionaires have also taken "income tax revenue, sales tax revenue, real estate tax revenue and all their staffs (and their salaries and income taxes) with them," saysPalihapitiya.

The measure would create a Billionaire Tax Health Account, which would receive 90 percent of the revenue generated by the tax. Funds from this account would go "to protect or enhance Medi-Cal," California's Medicaid program. (That same program was found by the Biden administration to have improperly claimed nearly $53 million in federal funding on behalf of noncitizens with ineligible immigration statuses from October 2018 through June 2019.) The remaining 10 percent would go to a new Billionaire Tax Education and Food Assistance Account, which would subsidize public K-12 education, plus two years of community college. This account would also help pay for "CalFresh, CalFAP, CalFood or California's Universal Meals Program for school meals."

The government should not be in the business of redistributing wealth, and a wealth tax is an especially ineffective means of generating revenue for any purpose. Moving costs might make it hard for other individuals and businesses headquartered in California to leave, but billionaires are highly mobile; they can easily become residents of another state by purchasing a house, acquiring a driver's license, and registering to vote there.”


The government should not be in the business of redistributing wealth indeed.
 

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The government should not be in the business of redistributing wealth indeed.
Who should, then? Because the billionaires sure as heck aren't going to do it themselves.
 
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This entire piece is based on statements made by some guy on twitter about phone calls he claims to have had with people he didn't name.
 
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This entire piece is based on statements made by some guy on twitter about phone calls he claims to have had with people he didn't name.
If you don’t like this piece by reason.com then here is another. But you might want to try to actually address the issue raised by the article.

 
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No one. Socialism sucks and fails every time.
Socialism as a system of government has never really worked very well. Socialist economic policies, on the other hand, are pretty vital to the operation of most countries - the United States included.
 
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It doesn’t yet have the required signatures to be on the ballot so it may not even happen.

I take the speculation that billionaires will leave with the same grain of salt that the billionaires are going to leave NYC because of Mamdani.
 
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If you don’t like this piece by reason.com then here is another. But you might want to try to actually address the issue raised by the article.

That article provides zero evidence of the supposed exodus.
 
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Socialism as a system of government has never really worked very well. Socialist economic policies, on the other hand, are pretty vital to the operation of most countries - the United States included.
Socialists economic policies actually drain economies when they depart from a capitalist economy. A perfect example is Sweden which changed back to a capitalistic economy and now has more billionaires per million people that does the US despite their democratic socialists ideas and policies. You don’t want to bite the hand that feeds you.
 
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That article provides zero evidence of the supposed exodus.
All you have to do is google. The article has a few examples. I think the idea is just stupid.
 
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If you don’t like this piece by reason.com then here is another.

That article mentions precisely 2 people.


But you might want to try to actually address the issue raised by the article.

I did. I'm pointing out how that article (and your follow up) hasn't even demonstrated that there is an issue.
 
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Then why didn't you or your author bother to do that?
Cause that would make your brain shrink. ;)

I just posted the article, you guys debate it. Maybe you can actually add something of value. :wave:
 
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Cause that would make your brain shrink. ;)
I'm not sure how you not doing your research makes my brain shrink.
I just posted the article, you guys debate it. Maybe you can actually add something of value. :wave:
We already have, by pointing out its uselessness. You made a claim - it's up to you to support it. The articles that you've posted thus far do not support the claims that you've made. Therefore, I dismiss them.
 
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Socialists economic policies actually drain economies when they depart from a capitalist economy. A perfect example is Sweden which changed back to a capitalistic economy and now has more billionaires per million people that does the US despite their democratic socialists ideas and policies. You don’t want to bite the hand that feeds you.
Shall we cancel your Social Security and Medicare then?

ETA: specifically addressing your claims about Sweden

https://www.reddit.com/r/norge/comments/1mtf34v
Research shows that the loss of revenue from abolishing the wealth tax was not recouped by jobs gained. Sweden, Denmark, and Norway all showed better economic growth when they had a wealth tax. Having more billionaires per capita is meaningless if the gap between rich and poor is growing and the country in general is seeing less growth.
 
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Socialists economic policies actually drain economies when they depart from a capitalist economy. A perfect example is Sweden which changed back to a capitalistic economy and now has more billionaires per million people that does the US despite their democratic socialists ideas and policies. You don’t want to bite the hand that feeds you.
Good for the billionaires I guess.
 
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That article mentions precisely 2 people.
That’s 2 billionaires gone.
I did. I'm pointing out how that article (and your follow up) hasn't even demonstrated that there is an issue.
But the issue is there. This bill doesn’t even have the necessary signatures yet and folks are already up in arms. Just the fact that if it passes it would be retroactive to the beginning of the year has some worried. The issue that this bill would basically make majority stake owner companies extinct is another major issue. These ideas that California are even considering should show most how out of touch with reality their progressive ideas actually are.

I made a comparison to Sweden in another post. They have addressed the issue of billionaires from a totally different and effective perspective. Here is an article that explains it.

 
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