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how far is trump to go for greenland

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Well, I'd rather be proactive than reactive like most of NATO. Does Russia have to invade again to wake everyone up?
When did Russia invade US, Canada, or Greenland?
 
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You know, I think if Trump does shoot 12000 people, that would be a good deterrent.
Could you please use the usual code for satire: [/satire].

People might think you were being serious.
 
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On this forum, it's the Poe's Law tags: [/Poe]

Look up Poe's Law in Wikipedia.
But I don't think the use of the word as it was typed was a Poe. Or sarcasm. I was kinda being sarcastic myself in suggesting it wasn't.

There was apparently a book back in 2005 called Kirk's Law...
 
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Well, I'd rather be proactive than reactive like most of NATO. Does Russia have to invade again to wake everyone up?
Considering that Russia's Black Sea fleet is hiding in port, due to Ukraine - a country that doesn't even have a navy. And, given that their one aircraft carrier is a smoking piece of crap that has to be followed around by a tug boat, for when it breaks down. Again. It's unlikely they'll be able to mount and support an amphibious assault against Greenland, the US or Canada in the foreseeable future.
 
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Wait, is that the definition of invasion?
No. But if they would do that, it would be an invasion.

Do I have to do all this logic math equation stuff at you where I say that just because a is b doesn't mean that b does not also include other elements?

So that means the Russians have not yet invaded Ukraine.
They tried to do that, they just failed. Let's not kid ourselves into thinking the USA would fail in accomplishing this goal if it put its mind to it.
 
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Considering that Russia's Black Sea fleet is hiding in port, due to Ukraine - a country that doesn't even have a navy. And, given that their one aircraft carrier is a smoking piece of crap that has to be followed around by a tug boat, for when it breaks down. Again. It's unlikely they'll be able to mount and support an amphibious assault against Greenland, the US or Canada in the foreseeable future.

All the more reason to liberate Greenlands resources NOW before Russia rebuilds their invasion fleet.
 
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Could you please use the usual code for satire: [/satire].

People might think you were being serious.
No satire here, I was saying that if Trump did what the Ayatollah is doing, it would be a good deterrent.
Again. It's unlikely they'll be able to mount and support an amphibious assault against Greenland, the US or Canada in the foreseeable future.
I knew Ukraine would be trouble for us during the foreseeable future, since G Bush, and were we prepared? It's going to take time and money to build, that's why I think Europe is doing good to take Greenland away from Trump. I am watching the Chinese rapid build, and all this won't happen till China gets stronger, and it's happening fast. How long will it take Europe to build a navy that is capable like the USA fleets? Does the EU have money to give to Ukraine and make ships? It's even harder now because of the global economic slowdown.

I wouldn't do an amphibious assault because Greenland would be hard to hold, but I would knock anti-sub/ ship infrastructure.
Considering that Russia's Black Sea fleet is hiding in port, due to Ukraine - a country that doesn't even have a navy. And, given that their one aircraft carrier is a smoking piece of crap that has to be followed around by a tug boat, for when it breaks down.
Not talking about the Black Sea, and yes, Russian and a host of other ships are getting blown up.
 
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Considering that Russia's Black Sea fleet is hiding in port, due to Ukraine - a country that doesn't even have a navy. And, given that their one aircraft carrier is a smoking piece of crap that has to be followed around by a tug boat, for when it breaks down. Again. It's unlikely they'll be able to mount and support an amphibious assault against Greenland, the US or Canada in the foreseeable future.
I wouldn't do an amphibious assault because Greenland would be hard to hold, but I would knock anti-sub/ ship infrastructure.
Why bring up amphibious again? Last Post
 
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No. But if they would do that, it would be an invasion.

Do I have to do all this logic math equation stuff at you where I say that just because a is b doesn't mean that b does not also include other elements?


They tried to do that, they just failed. Let's not kid ourselves into thinking the USA would fail in accomplishing this goal if it put its mind to it.
You said: "It would depend what those troops are doing. If they march into the capital and install a new government, that would constitute an invasion. "

Well, no, it does not depend on "what those troops are doing."

If troops from Country A set up a base in Country B without the permission of country B, it is an invasion. Right there, that much alone is an invasion. It's not an "occupation," and that's probably where you're confused, but it is an invasion.
 
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on a fun note, countries are building military forces in Greenland, and before anyone says again, "This is all part of trumps plans." if that was true he would have stopped the were coming for greenland nonsense, instead he keeps amping it up. In other news while trumps alienated the rest of the world and Canada, Canada has been meeting with China and it's leaders to do trade deals. Everything trump has done to supposedly make the world safter, just made the US weaker and a laughing stock.
 
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on a fun note, countries are building military forces in Greenland, and before anyone says again, "This is all part of trumps plans." if that was true he would have stopped the were coming for greenland nonsense, instead he keeps amping it up. In other news while trumps alienated the rest of the world and Canada, Canada has been meeting with China and it's leaders to do trade deals. Everything trump has done to supposedly make the world safter, just made the US weaker and a laughing stock.

The jokes on them, we have the nuclear Trump card!
 
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jokes on you, trump can't remember the code, and no one trusts him to remind him of it.

Ha, ha, ha!

The code is...

1...2...3...4...5.

The same as his luggage.
 
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Ha, ha, ha!

The code is...

1...2...3...4...5.

The same as his luggage.
Spaceballs-Luggage-Combination.gif
 
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No satire here, I was saying that if Trump did what the Ayatollah is doing, it would be a good deterrent.
As would burning people at the stake for DUI. But who in their right mind would suggest that?
 
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In this instance, I do not believe the military will acquiesce.
I have read ( can't verify) that some Republicans in congress have said that if he actually goes through with invading Greenland they will vote to impeach him. Also there is a bill being drawn up in Congress to prevent any invasion of a NATO ally by the US. Sad that's where we are. But I can't believe he would actually want to go through with this, I would think he would see that it would cost Republicans the midterms(IMO) if he goes through with invading Greenland and the Repubs in Congress remain silent and the military acquiesces.
 
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