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Joy, tears and chants of "freedom" as Venezuelans - Bravo President Trump and his decisive actions

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Thanks - interesting read:



Then there is this:


Again. It's Trump and it's Qatar where the Trump family work hand in hand together for financial gain. So one more time. It's not a good thing when someone personally and business wise is not only known for fraud, but whose name sake corp was indicted for fraud.
 
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Again. It's Trump and it's Qatar where the Trump family work hand in hand together for financial gain. So one more time. It's not a good thing when someone personally and business wise is not only known for fraud, but whose name sake corp was indicted for fraud.

Gotta pay for the airplane somehow.
 
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Again. It's Trump and it's Qatar where the Trump family work hand in hand together for financial gain. So one more time. It's not a good thing when someone personally and business wise is not only known for fraud, but whose name sake corp was indicted for fraud.

Will the GAO have access ro provide oversight ?

Transparency?

The people of Venezuela deserve to know where and how the Trump administration is spending their money.....
 
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Will the GAO have access ro provide oversight ?

Transparency?

The people of Venezuela deserve to know where and how the Trump administration is spending their money.....
In Trump world, and kind of like Judges decisions they don't like, the GAO is something to just ignore.
 
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Again. It's Trump and it's Qatar where the Trump family work hand in hand together for financial gain. So one more time. It's not a good thing when someone personally and business wise is not only known for fraud, but whose name sake corp was indicted for fraud.
Thank you for your opinion - yes - that is the tribe speak for years.
This is pretty much an announcement that they don't want US laws to apply.

America First!
Did you read how Venezuela is in debt over 180 billion to companies and that doing this way will make sure the funds go to the citizens, not corporations.

Trump moves to block courts from seizing Venezuelan oil revenue in US accounts


Jan 10 (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump signed an executive order aimed at blocking courts or creditors from impounding revenue tied to the sale of Venezuelan oil held in U.S. Treasury accounts, the White House said on Saturday.​
The emergency order said the revenue, held in foreign government deposit funds, should be used in Venezuela to help create "peace, prosperity and stability." The order was signed on Friday, less than a week after U.S. forces captured Venezuelan leader Nicolas Maduro in Caracas.​

But hey! It's Trump so it can't possibly be positive, could it?
 
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Did you read how Venezuela is in debt over 180 billion to companies and that doing this way
A way that avoids US laws. Those debts are real, why shouldn't everyone get what they deserve under US law? Are our laws wrong?

Besides, much of that is owed to the oil companies, who Trump has promised will be 'reimbursed'.
 
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What I Saw in Venezuela After Trump Seized Maduro

Locals are still sorting through the fallout of the American attacks on Venezuela.

[After the bombs and no one knew what was going on, our correspondent is at a beach club outside Caracas] Then my sister got a call: It was the mother of one of my nephews’ schoolmates, also staying at the club. “Go to the mini-market,” she said. “It’s open. We should all buy food.” It was already 4 a.m., but after dozens of calls and messages, it felt like only minutes had passed.

Then, President Donald Trump posted on Truth Social. He announced that Nicolás Maduro and Cilia Flores, the country’s authoritarian leader and his wife, had been “captured and flown out of the Country.”

And then the crowd gathered in the queue — this sea of people coiling and gossiping outside the mini-market — started shouting and celebrating too. A young woman in pajamas, with teary happy eyes, walked up and down the line announcing, “Trump just said they took Maduro.” A man pulled out a bottle of prosecco and began passing it around, pouring it into small cardboard coffee cups as people toasted. A woman called her relatives abroad, part of Venezuela’s 8 million-strong diaspora, to announce they would soon meet again in Venezuela. But even in the middle of the euphoria, another question began to surface, whispered and then spoken aloud:

“Okay, but then who’s in charge now?”

By 8 a.m., the line had barely moved. With the people we’d met queuing, we started taking turns holding our spots. There wasn’t much left anyway: lots of water, cartons of eggs, endless snacks and chips.

But reality was starting to come into focus. First, a statement, read by a pro-government journalist on VTV, the state channel, looped over and over. Then an audio message from Vice President Delcy Rodríguez rejecting what she called a “kidnapping” and demanding proof of life of Maduro. Then a video from Defense Minister Vladimir Padrino. Then Diosdado Cabello — the interior minister, overseer of the regime’s sinister security apparatus — surrounded by agents on the streets of Caracas, calling for calm and rejecting the intervention.

Maduro was gone, but the regime was still, more or less, intact.

“They took the dumbest one,” a security guard told us, as celebration curdled into worry. “They left us with the most toxic one,” he said, referring to the interior minister.

The coastal towns on the drive back to Caracas were empty, save for long lines of people outside supermarkets and pharmacies. We passed the port of La Guaira, where we saw warehouses blown apart, fences charred and twisted and a large cloud of smoke still rising from the site of the American strike.

As we drove up towards Caracas, soldiers — visibly tense, suspicious, scared — had blocked the highway with concrete barriers, leaving only a single lane open. And inside one of the tunnels in the hillsides before the city, one entire lane was occupied by tanks.

Unlike the euphoric crowds of the Venezuelan diaspora that gathered in cities like New York, Buenos Aires, Miami and Bogotá — part of the nearly eight million migrants and refugees who fled a humanitarian collapse, massive economic contraction and authoritarian rule under Maduro — there were no public celebrations in Caracas. Here, the constant, ingrained, fear of repression and reprisals by the regime prevailed. The regime might be decapitated, but it was still very much alive.

“I think it’s alarming he is saying he is keeping the oil,” a female friend said. “Whatever,” a male friend said. Other groups are buzzing by the second. Trump then lambasts María Corina Machado, the highly popular Nobel Peace Prize winner and opposition leader. The group chats explode. “Maybe he doesn’t know who she is,” a young woman said. “Maybe he is mixing Delcy with María Corina,” others suggested, trying to find meaning in the sudden reversal of sympathies from the Trump administration.

That day, I avoided leaving the house. Colectivos — pro-government urban militias armed with assault rifles — tightened their grip. Reports spread of their checkpoints on highways and across parts of the city, allegedly searching phones for “incriminating” messages. A new state-of-emergency law declared that anyone who had “supported” the operation could be arrested. That same day, 14 journalists, almost all from international outlets, were detained, only to be released later that night.

On the radio, only classical music played: no journalists, no commentary, no pop music, just long stretches of symphonies.

On Thursday, finally, the release of political prisoners was announced — apparently thanks to a push by the Trump administration, who said in exchange it would cancel the possibility of a second round of bombings. In WhatsApp groups and across social media, optimism surged at the prospect of seeing around 1,000 Venezuelans unjustly imprisoned finally set free. But after the hours-long frenzy — after alleged lists with hundreds of people, rumors, and names of well-known detainees said to be walking out — by Friday morning only nine had actually left their cells. The process is fragile; disappointment can kick in at any moment.

Still, the buzz continues in chats, conversations and social media posts alike: optimism, for now, holds.
 
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A way that avoids US laws. Those debts are real, why shouldn't everyone get what they deserve under US law? Are our laws wrong?

Besides, much of that is owed to the oil companies, who Trump has promised will be 'reimbursed'.
You have a very interesting way of looking at things - nothing Trump does could possibly be right - nothing Trump does could possibly be honest - nothing Trump does could possibly be for the betterment.

Got it.

I know how to end the LGBTQ movement in one day - Have Trump fully endorse it -
 
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You have a very interesting way of looking at things - nothing Trump does could possibly be right
You are wrong. You need this to be true so much, you're making up opposition in the Nigeria thread that isn't there.
 
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You are wrong. You need this to be true so much, you're making up opposition in the Nigeria thread that isn't there.
Prove me wrong - link one thread that you have posted in the last eight years that agreed with or lauded Trump for something you agreed with.


BTW - I will not report you for breaking forum rules.
 
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Thank you for your opinion - yes - that is the tribe speak for years.

Did you read how Venezuela is in debt over 180 billion to companies and that doing this way will make sure the funds go to the citizens, not corporations.

Trump moves to block courts from seizing Venezuelan oil revenue in US accounts


Jan 10 (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump signed an executive order aimed at blocking courts or creditors from impounding revenue tied to the sale of Venezuelan oil held in U.S. Treasury accounts, the White House said on Saturday.​
The emergency order said the revenue, held in foreign government deposit funds, should be used in Venezuela to help create "peace, prosperity and stability." The order was signed on Friday, less than a week after U.S. forces captured Venezuelan leader Nicolas Maduro in Caracas.​

But hey! It's Trump so it can't possibly be positive, could it?
Yes, recounting Trump's historical record of fraud is just stating reality, while for others that reality is some "tribe speak".
I think you may have it bass ackwards.
 
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How can a plan be analyzed if there’s no plan?
Stuff done and said without an over-arching strategy (beyond, ‘just wait and you’ll see!’*) can be analyzed to try to suss out the “plan” (if, indeed, there is one).

*not an actual quote by anyone, probably
 
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A "plan" can be invented by an onlooker even if there is no plan. Humans have a tendency to see patterns in actions even when it doesn't actually exist.

It's kind of like when the Soviets were running their "guest cosmonaut" program on the Mir space station. They took up people from the other Warsaw Pact nations, one at a time, for joyrides to the space station.

Back in the US, we tried to use the order in which countries were chosen for the joyrides to determine whether it indicated which countries were in the most favor with the Kremlin.

We drove ourselves crazy with all kinds of theories.

Until someone lined up the countries in order of flights, translated the names to Cyrillic...and discovered the Soviets were just going in alphabetical order.
…”the Soviets used a pencil”; (if one recalls the NASA meme back-in-the-day, about how we tried to get an ink pen to work in space). Which I found silly since the contamination of an electronically-laden spacecraft with micrometers of electrically conductive material, seemed outrageously optimistic.
 
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Trump does have a plan. You simply don't know, or have access, to his plans.
Neither does he until events determine his course.
 
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Yes, recounting Trump's historical record of fraud is just stating reality, while for others that reality is some "tribe speak".
I think you may have it bass ackwards.
yah - right
 
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You have a very interesting way of looking at things - nothing Trump does could possibly be right - nothing Trump does could possibly be honest - nothing Trump does could possibly be for the betterment.

Got it.

I know how to end the LGBTQ movement in one day - Have Trump fully endorse it -
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…”the Soviets used a pencil”; (if one recalls the NASA meme back-in-the-day, about how we tried to get an ink pen to work in space). Which I found silly since the contamination of an electronically-laden spacecraft with micrometers of electrically conductive material, seemed outrageously optimistic.
Their systems were not sophisticated enough to be hampered by graphite fragments floating about.
 
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