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Joy, tears and chants of "freedom" as Venezuelans - Bravo President Trump and his decisive actions

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Humans are absolutely addicted to meaning. If we cant find it (or it doesnt exist) in a set of events, we'll invent it.
Well we as a species have used pattern detection as a survival mechanism, so finding patterns is kinda embedded in us, for better or for worse.
 
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He reads the news. That and the "plan" doesn't involve carpet samples, so DJT isn't into it.

It ain't slander if it's true.
That explains the inability to see more than what the 'news' puts out.
 
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A "plan" can be invented by an onlooker even if there is no plan. Humans have a tendency to see patterns in actions even when it doesn't actually exist.

It's kind of like when the Soviets were running their "guest cosmonaut" program on the Mir space station. They took up people from the other Warsaw Pact nations, one at a time, for joyrides to the space station.

Back in the US, we tried to use the order in which countries were chosen for the joyrides to determine whether it indicated which countries were in the most favor with the Kremlin.

We drove ourselves crazy with all kinds of theories.

Until someone lined up the countries in order of flights, translated the names to Cyrillic...and discovered the Soviets were just going in alphabetical order.
Trump does have a plan. You simply don't know, or have access, to his plans.
 
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The Trump DOJ is currently arguing in court that it had to remove Maduro because illegal mining was displacing indigenous communities


I couldnt find a news outlet link but I did find this:

Trump’s DOJ Quietly Changes Crucial Detail in Charges Against Maduro

President Donald Trump’s Department of Justice quietly removed references to a fictional drug cartel led by Nicolás Maduro from its newest indictment of the kidnapped Venezuelan president.


The original indictment filed against Maduro in March 2020 in the Southern District of New York described the Cartel de los Soles as a “drug trafficking organization comprised of high-ranking officials” that operated between 1999 and 2020.

But apparently, Cartel de los Soles isn’t a real organization at all. It’s a slang term invented by the Venezuelan media to describe corruption, according to the Times. The supposed cartel’s inclusion in the original indictment would be as if someone tried Trump for leading “Trumpworld” as a criminal organization.

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And this..
Trump Wants to Accelerate Extraction in Venezuela. So Do Drug Trafficking Organizations.

Illegal mining has enriched the Maduro regime and criminal groups while devastating the Amazon and its people. The U.S. is pulling out of organizations aimed at stopping the harm.


“Venezuela is a country that, for 27 years, has systematically destroyed the rule of law and abused human and environmental rights,” said Cristina Vollmer de Burelli, a Venezuelan and founder of SOS Orinoco, an advocacy group focused on protecting the Venezuelan Amazon rainforest.

The Venezuelan mission to the United Nations did not respond to requests for comment.

Unlike some other governments in Latin America, Venezuela’s is not merely tolerating or failing to stop illicit economies linked to environmental destruction, “it’s actively directing and controlling them,” Vollmer de Burelli said.

Mining there serves as a money maker and conduit for laundering drug profits, she said—and those who stand in the way, like Virgilio Trujillo Arana, pay with their lives.

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Not in the U.S. Interest
As abuses linked to illegal mining have intensified, international cooperation has played a critical role in documenting crimes, pressuring authorities and combating criminal networks operating across borders in the forest.

Yet the Trump administration has gutted the U.S. Agency for International Development, which worked to curb illegal mining and support affected communities. Last February, Trump again withdrew the United States from the U.N. Human Rights Council, the body that authorized the fact-finding mission to Venezuela.

And on Wednesday, Trump announced the United States’ withdrawal from more than 60 other international organizations and treaties, many of them focused on human rights, environmental protection and the promotion of democracy and rule of law.
 
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perhaps the part I quoted and then bolded with big red letters.
It doesn't mean anything. It isn't coherent. There is no connection between the investigations into trump and the epstein investigation.
 
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It doesn't mean anything. It isn't coherent. There is no connection between the investigations into trump and the epstein investigation.
Yes, I understand it is missed on you. I figured that out when I had to point out the big red letters.

Have a great Day!
 
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Let's go back to the topic of the thread.

It is obvious that after the U.S. military operation that resulted in the capture and removal of Nicolás Maduro from Venezuela on January 3, 2026, many Venezuelans both at home and abroad responded with visible celebrations and expressions of hope for the future. In Caracas and other Venezuelan cities, some citizens took to the streets chanting slogans of “liberty” and signaling relief at the end of Maduro’s long-standing rule, which opponents characterized as repressive and corrupt. Demonstrations of joy also spread across the region and internationally, with Venezuelan expatriates in places like Doral, Florida, Madrid, Buenos Aires and Quito waving national flags, singing, and celebrating what they saw as a new chapter for their homeland.

For many displaced Venezuelans and refugees, the announcement brought emotional relief and a renewed hope of safely reuniting with family members. Supporters of a democratic transition viewed Maduro’s departure as symbolic of the possibility for political change after years of economic crisis and political repression.

At the same time, reactions were not universally celebratory, but the positive responses among many Venezuelans underscored deep dissatisfaction with the previous regime and a yearning for stability, democracy and improved living conditions.
 
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Trump does have a plan. You simply don't know, or have access, to his plans.
He has zero plans as noted by the chaotic statements from varying officials.
His plan for Venezuela is about the same as his healthcare plan.
 
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...here's the thing with the U.S. making promises of stability, democracy and improved living conditions: If the U.S. fails to deliever, the Venezuelan people will turn to other parties who can.
 
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...here's the thing with the U.S. making promises of stability, democracy and improved living conditions: If the U.S. fails to deliever, the Venezuelan people will turn to other parties who can.
The idea of running Venezuela from Wash DC is just nutso. Trump just says stuff, and it's so much stuff he can't even remember what he said. The truth remains a lot easier to remember than a lie. Just fact oil execs poo pooed his oil take over plan bears this out. The oil sanctions against Venezuela was to put pressure on Maduro to step aside. He's no longer there. Why are we still seizing oil tankers like the one today? The revenue sold far from seized oil is being sent by Trump to a Qatar bank. What could possibly go wrong when a individual who has had entities shut down for fraud as well as his namesake org found guilty of fraud is in control of oil revenues?
 
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The revenue sold far from seized oil is being sent by Trump to a Qatar bank.
Prove it. Show a source proving that revenue from seized oil has been sent to Qatar -
 
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Thanks - interesting read:

President Donald Trump has indicated that the US would effectively run Venezuela for an indeterminable amount of time and take control of up to 50 million barrels of its oil — marketing and selling it while distributing the proceeds back to Venezuela in an arrangement with little precedent.

Then there is this:

Revenue from the oil sales is currently being held in bank accounts controlled by the US government, as indicated in Friday’s order, according to the administration official. The main account, according to a second senior administration official, is located in Qatar.​
The second official described Qatar as a neutral location where money can flow freely with US approval and without risk of seizure. Trump’s order noted that at least some of the revenue would be held in US Treasury accounts.​
 
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