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Joy, tears and chants of "freedom" as Venezuelans - Bravo President Trump and his decisive actions

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As @RDKirk noted in #405, he only has concepts of plans.

Trump is too busy looking for things to cover in gold foil or marble to have any "plans".
Sorry. But you are absolutely incorrect.
 
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What's the plan?
You can't see it because it's under the replacement for Obamacare. And you can't see that because it's under the pile of Epstein Files that haven't been released.
 
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You can't see it because it's under the replacement for Obamacare. And you can't see that because it's under the pile of Epstein Files that haven't been released.
And he’s still under audit.
 
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You can't see it because it's under the replacement for Obamacare. And you can't see that because it's under the pile of Epstein Files that haven't been released.
Is that the same pile the Biden Administration along with Congressional majority had for years and did not want them released?
 
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Is that the same pile the Biden Administration along with Congressional majority had for years and did not want them released?
Investigative files are not typically released. There is no reason to believe they did not want them released. It's just an idea that was never entertained.

Except by nutters on the right. Trump promised to satisfy them but now clearly does not want them released, even to the extent of violating the law that was passed.
 
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Is that the same pile the Biden Administration along with Congressional majority had for years and did not want them released?
Why do you want Ghislaine Maxwell released from prison? Because that's what would have happened if the files had been released while her case was going through the courts.
 
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Investigative files are not typically released. There is no reason to believe they did not want them released. It's just an idea that was never entertained.

hogwash - The Democratic majority who went after Trump for eight years - 900 investigations, 7 impeachment attempts, 2 impeachments, a two and a half year 40,000,000.00 investigation that used 19 attorney's, 40 FBI special agents, reviewed more than 1,000,000 pages of documents and conducted 2,500 subpoena's on three continents - who had full access to the files never released them

and you want people to believe they didn't 'entertain' the idea.

And they call Republican's nutters.......
 
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Is that the same pile the Biden Administration along with Congressional majority had for years and did not want them released?
For what reason would Merrick Garland filter through the Epstein files seeing Epstein dead and Ghislaine Maxwell serving in jail? It's the same MAGA folks who held fast the 2020 election was stolen when not hanging out waiting for JFKjr to come back to life or casing Pizza Shops waiting for Tom Hanks appearances who fueled a conspiracy. It was the number one and number two at Trump's FBI who pledged to get to the bottom of it and expose everyone. They came. They saw. And now they are backing away from that like a crab from a pot of boiling water.
 
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hogwash - The Democratic majority who went after Trump for eight years - 900 investigations, 7 impeachment attempts, 2 impeachments, a two and a half year 40,000,000.00 investigation that used 19 attorney's, 40 FBI special agents, reviewed more than 1,000,000 pages of documents and conducted 2,500 subpoena's on three continents
Did they release the 'Trump Investigative Files'?

No.
 
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You can't see it because it's under the replacement for Obamacare. And you can't see that because it's under the pile of Epstein Files that haven't been released.
INFRASTRUCTURE WEEK!
 
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What's the plan?
According to Gemini AI:

President Trump has recently articulated a multi-layered strategy for Venezuela’s oil, centered on asserting U.S. control over its vast reserves to lower energy costs and reduce the influence of global rivals like Russia and China.
Following the capture of Nicolás Maduro in January 2026, the administration has moved quickly to treat Venezuela’s oil as a strategic U.S. asset. The plan includes the following key pillars:
1. Direct Control and Seizure
The administration has asserted "indefinite" control over Venezuela's oil sales. This began with the seizure of approximately 50 million barrels of crude from sanctioned tankers and storage facilities, valued at roughly $3 billion. The U.S. Department of Energy (DOE) is now acting as the primary marketer for Venezuelan oil, with proceeds being held in U.S.-controlled bank accounts.
2. The "$50 a Barrel" Target
A central goal of Trump’s policy is to drive global oil prices down to approximately $50 per barrel. By revitalizing Venezuela's production (which holds the world's largest proven reserves), the administration intends to create a "Western Hemisphere oil production stronghold" that lowers domestic energy costs for American consumers and businesses.
3. Privatized Rebuilding
Trump has called on American oil giants—such as Chevron, ExxonMobil, and ConocoPhillips—to invest $100 billion of their own capital to rebuild Venezuela's crumbling infrastructure.
* Security Guarantees: He has promised these companies "total safety" and "total security" provided by the U.S. government to protect their investments.
* "Buy American" Mandate: Trump stated that the profits Venezuela earns from these deals must be used exclusively to purchase U.S.-made goods.
4. Geopolitical Strategy
The plan is explicitly designed to freeze out U.S. adversaries:
* Russia & China: The administration aims to end the strategic energy partnerships Maduro held with Moscow and Beijing.
* Global Leverage: By controlling Venezuelan output, the U.S. seeks to reduce European and global dependence on Russian energy.
 
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hogwash - The Democratic majority who went after Trump for eight years - 900 investigations, 7 impeachment attempts, 2 impeachments, a two and a half year 40,000,000.00 investigation that used 19 attorney's, 40 FBI special agents, reviewed more than 1,000,000 pages of documents and conducted 2,500 subpoena's on three continents - who had full access to the files never released them

and you want people to believe they didn't 'entertain' the idea.

And they call Republican's nutters.......
I didn't say anything about Democrats. I asked if you wanted Maxwell to be set free. Because leaking or releasing those files while her court case was going on would have given her the exact ammo needed to do so.
 
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According to Gemini AI:

President Trump has recently articulated a multi-layered strategy for Venezuela’s oil, centered on asserting U.S. control over its vast reserves to lower energy costs and reduce the influence of global rivals like Russia and China.
Following the capture of Nicolás Maduro in January 2026, the administration has moved quickly to treat Venezuela’s oil as a strategic U.S. asset. The plan includes the following key pillars:
1. Direct Control and Seizure
The administration has asserted "indefinite" control over Venezuela's oil sales. This began with the seizure of approximately 50 million barrels of crude from sanctioned tankers and storage facilities, valued at roughly $3 billion. The U.S. Department of Energy (DOE) is now acting as the primary marketer for Venezuelan oil, with proceeds being held in U.S.-controlled bank accounts.
2. The "$50 a Barrel" Target
A central goal of Trump’s policy is to drive global oil prices down to approximately $50 per barrel. By revitalizing Venezuela's production (which holds the world's largest proven reserves), the administration intends to create a "Western Hemisphere oil production stronghold" that lowers domestic energy costs for American consumers and businesses.
3. Privatized Rebuilding
Trump has called on American oil giants—such as Chevron, ExxonMobil, and ConocoPhillips—to invest $100 billion of their own capital to rebuild Venezuela's crumbling infrastructure.
* Security Guarantees: He has promised these companies "total safety" and "total security" provided by the U.S. government to protect their investments.
* "Buy American" Mandate: Trump stated that the profits Venezuela earns from these deals must be used exclusively to purchase U.S.-made goods.
4. Geopolitical Strategy
The plan is explicitly designed to freeze out U.S. adversaries:
* Russia & China: The administration aims to end the strategic energy partnerships Maduro held with Moscow and Beijing.
* Global Leverage: By controlling Venezuelan output, the U.S. seeks to reduce European and global dependence on Russian energy.
That's an analysis of a plan based on observed actions, which is not the same thing as a plan.

That's what we as intelligence analysts did regarding the Soviet Union and briefed it as a "the Soviet plan."

It's not as though we had found an actual Soviet document with their plan all laid out.
 
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That's an analysis of a plan based on observed actions, which is not the same thing as a plan.

That's what we as intelligence analysts did regarding the Soviet Union and briefed it as a "the Soviet plan."

It's not as though we had found an actual Soviet document with their plan all laid out.
How can a plan be analyzed if there’s no plan?
 
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hogwash - The Democratic majority who went after Trump for eight years - 900 investigations, 7 impeachment attempts, 2 impeachments, a two and a half year 40,000,000.00 investigation that used 19 attorney's, 40 FBI special agents, reviewed more than 1,000,000 pages of documents and conducted 2,500 subpoena's on three continents - who had full access to the files never released them

and you want people to believe they didn't 'entertain' the idea.

And they call Republican's nutters.......
None of those investigations had anything to do with Epstein. They were about Trump's wide portfolio of other crimes and malfeasance.
 
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How can a plan be analyzed if there’s no plan?
A "plan" can be invented by an onlooker even if there is no plan. Humans have a tendency to see patterns in actions even when it doesn't actually exist.

It's kind of like when the Soviets were running their "guest cosmonaut" program on the Mir space station. They took up people from the other Warsaw Pact nations, one at a time, for joyrides to the space station.

Back in the US, we tried to use the order in which countries were chosen for the joyrides to determine whether it indicated which countries were in the most favor with the Kremlin.

We drove ourselves crazy with all kinds of theories.

Until someone lined up the countries in order of flights, translated the names to Cyrillic...and discovered the Soviets were just going in alphabetical order.
 
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A "plan" can be invented by an onlooker even if there is no plan. Humans have a tendency to see patterns in actions even when it doesn't actually exist.

It's kind of like when the Soviets were running their "guest cosmonaut" program on the Mir space station. They took up people from the other Warsaw Pact nations, one at a time, for joyrides to the space station.

Back in the US, we tried to use the order in which countries were chosen for the joyrides to determine whether it indicated which countries were in the most favor with the Kremlin.

We drove ourselves crazy with all kinds of theories.

Until someone lined up the countries in order of flights, translated the names to Cyrillic...and discovered the Soviets were just going in alphabetical order.
Humans are absolutely addicted to meaning. If we cant find it (or it doesnt exist) in a set of events, we'll invent it.
 
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