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Protester blinded, skull fractured by DHS agent during Santa Ana demonstration; agent fired nonlethal round at close range to the face

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Jeri Rees said her 21-year-old nephew underwent six hours of surgery and that doctors found shards of plastic, glass and metal embedded in his eyes and around his face, including a metal piece lodged 7 mm from a carotid artery.

She said doctors did not want to remove the shrapnel near the artery out of fear that it could kill him.

Several videos of Friday’s incident were shared on social media. One video shows demonstrators, who were protesting the fatal shooting in Minnesota of Renee Good, throwing orange safety cones at the agents, who were standing guard outside of the Santa Ana federal building.

In the video, at least one agent appears to fire nonlethal rounds at the crowd, hitting one woman in the leg before aiming and striking the victim in the face.

The video shows the victim dropping to the ground after being shot, holding their face as the crowd retreats. The same agent then drags the victim by the hood of their jacket; they appear to be choking, grasping at the jacket binding their neck as blood pours from their left eye.

“The other officers were mocking him, saying, ‘You’re going to lose your eye,’” she said, recalling what her nephew told her.

“This constitutes as deadly force as far as the law is concerned,” said Ed Obayashi of the video. The Modoc County sheriff’s deputy and legal advisor to police agencies, who has testified in similar cases, said that “all the training manuals and [legal] cases say you don’t aim at the face because these projectiles can cause serious injury [or] death.”

Obayashi said, based on law enforcement use-of-force standards, an officer can deploy deadly force if they feel their life is in imminent danger, or that they are in danger of great bodily harm. “I just don’t see that here,” he said.

A spokesperson for the Santa Ana Police Department said the only violence they were aware of that night were demonstrators tossing orange cones at the agents.

In an email response to The Times, Tricia McLaughlin, assistant secretary with the Department of Homeland Security, said a “mob of 60 rioters threw rocks, bottles and fireworks at law enforcement officers outside of the federal building.”
 

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Those kids need their parents' butts wooped. Is that proper civil behavior to rush law enforcement? All law enforcement should have a Byrna, which may teach them a lesson.
Victim blaming at its finest!
 
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And what medical treatment would this terrorist need if they just stayed home and posted on reddit.
Anyone attempting to render aid is, at leas,t a terrorist sympathizer and must be dealt with harshly.
 
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Victim blaming at its finest!
I blamed the parents for raising undisciplined kids. Normal people don't lose control of their emotions and hit and grab others. Have we evolved into this?
 
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I blamed the parents for raising undisciplined kids. Normal people don't lose control of their emotions and hit and grab others. Have we evolved into this?
Maybe they had behavioral problems growing up making it difficult to discipline them? Parents aren’t divine.
 
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Maybe they had behavioral problems growing up making it difficult to discipline them? Parents aren’t divine.
Seems to be a lot of behavioral problems in America, not enough kids got the belt.
 
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Seems to be a lot of behavioral problems in America, not enough kids got the belt.
We live in a different time now. I’m not a parent so I can’t speak for discipline.
 
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The liberals caused all the problems with these dysfunctional anarchist hate America youth with public television and the Teletubbies. Tinkie Winkie and his purse turned a generation of American children into pre programed Manchurian Candidates.
 
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Seems to be a lot of behavioral problems in America, not enough kids got the belt.
So you're saying that if the DHS agent had been beaten with a leather strap by his father when he was growing up then he wouldn't have shot someone in the face with a non lethal round?

I'm not following the logic.
 
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he wouldn't have shot someone in the face with a non lethal round?
It doesn't matter if his daddy spanked him or not he he was protecting himself from the mob. My daddy spanked me to be a law-abiding citizen, not what we see from some of these unhinged people.
 
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It doesn't matter if his daddy spanked him or not he he was protecting himself from the mob.
Maybe his dad should have beat some decent gun training into him. He turned out to be a really bad shot.
My daddy spanked me to be a law-abiding citizen, not what we see from some of these unhinged people.
Are you saying that if we want our children to grow up not to be violent then we should beat that into them?

Again, the logic escapes me.
 
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Those kids need their parents' butts wooped. Is that proper civil behavior to rush law enforcement? All law enforcement should have a Byrna, which may teach them a lesson.
Somehow the solution to everything is more child abuse.
 
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Those kids need their parents' butts wooped. Is that proper civil behavior to rush law enforcement? All law enforcement should have a Byrna, which may teach them a lesson.

I thought you were talking about the ICE agents.....alas...

n the video, at least one agent appears to fire nonlethal rounds at the crowd, hitting one woman in the leg before aiming and striking the victim in the face.

The video shows the victim dropping to the ground after being shot, holding their face as the crowd retreats. The same agent then drags the victim by the hood of their jacket; they appear to be choking, grasping at the jacket binding their neck as blood pours from their left eye.

“The other officers were mocking him, saying, ‘You’re going to lose your eye,’” she said, recalling what her nephew told her.

Do you condone this behavior by ICE agents?
 
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Are you saying that if we want our children to grow up not to be violent then we should beat that into them
Try not to be an extremist, spanking is not a beating. I received a beating once when I was 16 when I raised my fist at my mom out of anger. I controlled my anger every since then toward my mom.
 
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Just remember, the guy with the mega phone is the victim by today's standards...

We're in an era where people 18-25 think they're smarter than everyone else, and any cause they deem important should exempt them from the normal rules of engagement.

"If I want to throw a bottle of urine or "concrete milkshake" at you because I don't like what you're doing, that's justified because my cause is justified based on the level of how angry I am, but as soon as the organic consequences happen, I'm the victim"

I'd estimate that roughly 1/4 of the country has become that pesky younger sibling who sticks their finger about a half inch away from your eye and says "I'm not touching you, I'm not touching you", and then cries to mom when you slap their hand away.
 
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Somehow the solution to everything is more child abuse.
In this incident it's liberal parenting, not many conservative kids are anti law enforcement.
 
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Victim blaming at its finest!
When the "victim" is part of a “mob of 60 rioters threw rocks, bottles and fireworks at law enforcement officers outside of the federal building.”, keep in mind that the rioters are using things against law enforcement that can have equally damaging effects against a person as a non-lethal round can have when it hits someone in the face.
So don't be so quick to throw our law enforcement officers under the bus.

Somehow the solution to everything is more child abuse.
Now that we have an absence of what you referred to as child abuse, we now have an abundance of rioters.
Looks like the absence of discipline during the growing up years of these people didn't make them respect authority. Spare the rod, and it comes later in life as tear gas and non-lethal projectile rounds (and maybe prison time).
 
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