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Texas A&M University bans Plato for "gender ideology"

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Today, Texas A&M resumes classes for the spring semester—but a number of canonized texts will not be welcomed back to school. The public research university has lately been caught in the crossfire between state and stupid.

As The Texas Tribune has reported, faculty in the College of Arts and Sciences were informed just last week that “a new system policy restricting classroom discussions of race and gender” is set to take effect today.

The policy, engineered and approved by the Texas A&M University Regents last November, requires that the school’s president sign off on every syllabus with an eye to scrubbing “problematic” content. But the foes were loosely framed.

Under the new restrictions, gender ideology is defined as “a concept of self-assessed gender identity replacing, and disconnected from, the biological category of sex.” Race ideology entails “attempts to shame a particular race or ethnicity” or anything that “promotes activism on issues related to race or ethnicity rather than academic instruction.”

As a European history professor pointed out at the time, this wording could effectively prohibit a professor from teaching about the Holocaust.

The regents used AI analysis software to audit syllabi for unapproved content. Thanks to this rude mech, 200 courses have been cancelled, stripped of core curricular credit value, or forced into revision.

The hammer came down over the weekend for assorted religion, film, ethnic studies, sociology, communications, and literature classes. And in a truly-beyond-parody move, a philosophy professor, Martin Peterson, was told to “either remove ‘modules on race and gender ideology'” from his course, or be reassigned to teach a different class entirely.

Most philosophy nerds will recognize the “gender ideology” readings in question, which are lifted from the Symposium. The university apparently quibbled with Plato’s reference the the “Myth of Androgyne,” in which Aristophanes describes three genders.

Most musical theatre nerds will also catch the reference—the same myth was called up in John Cameron Mitchell and Stephen Trask’s epic ballad, “The Origin of Love,” from Hedwig and the Angry Inch.

Even as we note the rise of smoothbrain rhetoric sea to sea, the fact that Plato has been deemed inappropriate for an Introduction to Philosophy course is a surreal escalation of terms.

 

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For the sake of anyone not in the know like you, Barbarian . . . including me >

All I know about Texas A&M is they can have good football teams and maybe they specialize in engineering and technology . . . more physical technology, not AI necessarily, but more "practical' stuff. I am ready to be corrected.

Are they supposed to be Christian, and therefore trying to purge literature with perversion approving stuff and wrong approach to stopping racism?

Under the new restrictions, gender ideology is defined as “a concept of self-assessed gender identity replacing, and disconnected from, the biological category of sex.” Race ideology entails “attempts to shame a particular race or ethnicity” or anything that “promotes activism on issues related to race or ethnicity rather than academic instruction.”
Well, if something is wrong, you might want to inform people about it so they can know what you find to be wrong. If you purge it, your students might be ignorant while everybody else will be in the know.

200 courses have been cancelled, stripped of core curricular credit value, or forced into revision.
200 courses???? In my day I think my school had a thousand students. 200 is somewhat competitive with that number of students!! If 200 is how many that get cancelled . . . just how many courses do they have at that place? :)

How many courses does a school need to have? What happened to reading, writing, and arithmetic?

Martin Peterson, was told to “either remove ‘modules on race and gender ideology'” from his course, or be reassigned to teach a different class entirely.
Well . . . if a religious school wants to inform students about "other" religions . . . they might hire someone who believes in the other stuff so they can represent their view to the students . . . so students can be in the know, plus make sure they really are committed to the religion of that school. I have been told the Amish can send their children into a city for a year so their children can make a comparative choice about if they want to remain in the Amish community. And a comparative religions professor can be someone not of a school's religion. They can advise the students that content will be controversial.

Or, the students can later be educated, in real life. Jesus explained in some detail what He found to be wrong with certain people. And our Apostle Paul spelled out what wrong people believed, then made it clear that they were wrong, and how.

But would I read the thousands of pages of Harry Potter books, in order to go into detail about what they are? I don't think so. In a school, I hope their presentation of inferior and wrong stuff could be done efficiently, and mainly point out what is right so we can easily see why other stuff is wrong. It could be like how government people protecting people from counterfeit money do not study every one of the samples of counterfeits; but mainly they might get to know what a real dollar bill or other currency looks like so they can readily dismiss anything not like the real thing.

The university apparently quibbled with Plato’s reference the the “Myth of Androgyne,” in which Aristophanes describes three genders.
How does Plato compare with Jesus? I admit, I am prejudiced so I could say, how did Plato even get started to get attention?
 
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Today, Texas A&M resumes classes for the spring semester—but a number of canonized texts will not be welcomed back to school. The public research university has lately been caught in the crossfire between state and stupid.

As The Texas Tribune has reported, faculty in the College of Arts and Sciences were informed just last week that “a new system policy restricting classroom discussions of race and gender” is set to take effect today.

The policy, engineered and approved by the Texas A&M University Regents last November, requires that the school’s president sign off on every syllabus with an eye to scrubbing “problematic” content. But the foes were loosely framed.

Under the new restrictions, gender ideology is defined as “a concept of self-assessed gender identity replacing, and disconnected from, the biological category of sex.” Race ideology entails “attempts to shame a particular race or ethnicity” or anything that “promotes activism on issues related to race or ethnicity rather than academic instruction.”

As a European history professor pointed out at the time, this wording could effectively prohibit a professor from teaching about the Holocaust.

The regents used AI analysis software to audit syllabi for unapproved content. Thanks to this rude mech, 200 courses have been cancelled, stripped of core curricular credit value, or forced into revision.

The hammer came down over the weekend for assorted religion, film, ethnic studies, sociology, communications, and literature classes. And in a truly-beyond-parody move, a philosophy professor, Martin Peterson, was told to “either remove ‘modules on race and gender ideology'” from his course, or be reassigned to teach a different class entirely.

Most philosophy nerds will recognize the “gender ideology” readings in question, which are lifted from the Symposium. The university apparently quibbled with Plato’s reference the the “Myth of Androgyne,” in which Aristophanes describes three genders.

Most musical theatre nerds will also catch the reference—the same myth was called up in John Cameron Mitchell and Stephen Trask’s epic ballad, “The Origin of Love,” from Hedwig and the Angry Inch.

Even as we note the rise of smoothbrain rhetoric sea to sea, the fact that Plato has been deemed inappropriate for an Introduction to Philosophy course is a surreal escalation of terms.


Weren't these some of the same folks who were so worried that universities were undermining the very foundations of western culture? Self-fulfilling prophecy?
 
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Weren't these some of the same folks who were so worried that universities were undermining the very foundations of western culture? Self-fulfilling prophecy?
That was before the Texas Commissar for Gender Correctness determined wokeness in Plato's writings.
 
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For the sake of anyone not in the know like you, Barbarian . . . including me >

All I know about Texas A&M is they can have good football teams and maybe they specialize in engineering and technology . . . more physical technology, not AI necessarily, but more "practical' stuff. I am ready to be corrected.
I used to do a lot of interviews there for students. They do a great job of preparing students for technical jobs. Or did. It's been a while. I'd be surprised if they weren't doing good work in AI.

Are they supposed to be Christian, and therefore trying to purge literature with perversion approving stuff and wrong approach to stopping racism?
The boards of state universities in Texas have been purged of politically incorrect members. So cultural Christianity is in, and opposing racism is no longer a goal.

Well, if something is wrong, you might want to inform people about it so they can know what you find to be wrong. If you purge it, your students might be ignorant while everybody else will be in the know.
In Texas universities, that seems to be reduced to one word. "Crimethink." Jobs are being lost over careless and impolitic comments.

How does Plato compare with Jesus?
Unitl recently, I never gave it a lot of thought. But some have...

Whereas Platonism played a key role in the development of Christianity, the further development of Platonism beyond antiquity was dependent to a large degree upon Christian thinkers. The importance of this dialogue provides an answer to Tertullian’s celebrated question: ‘What has Athens to do with Jerusalem?’ The emphatic answer, detailed in the chapters of Christian Platonism: A History, is everything.*

I'm personally less interested in a rigorous theology than in a personal relationship with God. I'm kind of a fan of St. Thomas Aquinas, and so not much inclined to Platonism.
 
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I'm personally less interested in a rigorous theology than in a personal relationship with God. I'm kind of a fan of St. Thomas Aquinas, and so not much inclined to Platonism.
So - what is Platonism, anyway? I suppose it can be what each person makes it and how one takes it . . . not necessarily what Plato might have meant > but I'll try >

It seems he is saying that there are realities deeper and better than physically experienced things. So, in order to appreciate what is beyond physical senses we need to meditate and contemplate them spiritually.

So, that would mean the you can experience God, but not by intellectual and physical means. In case he means this . . . I agree :)
 
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I don't know how I feel about this. What about philosophy students and philosophy courses? It's kind of hard to have them without discussing Plato. Eh? Also, I think professors and universities should have the freedom to teach what they want, ergo, not necessarily teach students WHAT to think but HOW to think more critically.
 
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So - what is Platonism, anyway?
The idea that physical things have ideal, non-physical counterparts that are somehow more transcendantly "real" than the physical things.
 
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I don't know how I feel about this. What about philosophy students and philosophy courses? It's kind of hard to have them without discussing Plato. Eh? Also, I think professors and universities should have the freedom to teach what they want, ergo, not necessarily teach students WHAT to think but HOW to think more critically.
Texas actually passed a law that forbids teaching historical things that might upset students. So the state curriculum tries to find a "nicer" presentation for slavery in Texas:
 
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How odd! Ugh
The argument is that teaching kids about things that were wrong in U.S. history, teaches them to "hate America." But the specific things they don't want mentioned, suggests a different concern.
 
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