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how far is trump to go for greenland

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In my opinion Trump being a realtor is using pressure tactics to get the deal he wants. I'm not endorsing it or defending it, I'm just saying what I think his strategy is. My opinion is worth 2 cents. And my ability to influence or change the situation is 0%.
Negotiation under the pressure of thread is extortion.
Or is that a leftist America-hating TDS induced spin again?
 
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O really? What should we understand from the following quote

Please, give us your view how we should not interpret this as a thread of using military force.
And the following answer of Stephen Miller

how should we interpet, "We can do this the hard way, or the easy way." from trump.
 
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how should we interpet, "We can do this the hard way, or the easy way." from trump.
"The hard way" probably means that the chairs at the negotiation table wont have cushions.
 
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That would mean more of you attached a quote from me in this thread where I'm actually defending it as opposed to explaining it.

There's a difference between explaining something and objecting to it, and explaining it while telling people it's OK and they shouldn't be upset or taken aback by it - which is precisely what you are doing.

One of the principles defined in the bible is that the end doesn't justify the means. Yet the general message behind your posts are that the end does indeed justify the means. It's one of the core tenets of Trumpism.


I agree with you that we need to mind our own business. However, is Trump trying to manage Greenland's and Denmark's personal affairs, or is he trying to establish a military stronghold for us which is in our best interest?

I really doubt that Trump plans on taking Greenland by military force. Greenland isn't that important.

So we should go hide in a corner?

Probably more bargaining tactics.
 
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There's a difference between explaining something and objecting to it, and explaining it while telling people it's OK and they shouldn't be upset or taken aback by it - which is precisely what you are doing.

One of the principles defined in the bible is that the end doesn't justify the means. Yet the general message behind your posts are that the end does indeed justify the means. It's one of the core tenets of Trumpism.
I'm saying since he's a lifelong real estate person Trump is probably applying pressure tactics. You should argue that, instead of going after me personally.
 
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Negotiation under the pressure of thread is extortion.
Or is that a leftist America-hating TDS induced spin again?
"Negotiation under the pressure of threat is extortion", is hyperbole.
 
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O really? What should we understand from the following quote

Please, give us your view how we should not interpret this as a thread of using military force.
And the following answer of Stephen Miller

Implication as opposed to any kind of solid declaration.
 
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no, he's said they will get it the easy way or the hard way, or one way or another, that implies a direct threat of conflict if he doesn't get it.
Exactly. It's an implication as opposed to an actual threat or declaration.
 
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I'm saying since he's a lifelong real estate person Trump is probably applying pressure tactics. You should argue that, instead of going after me personally.

Sorry… MAGA doesn’t get to redefine reality. And, no, you’re not the victim here.

If you’re going to defend the man, at least have the courage to admit that you’re doing so.
 
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Sorry… MAGA doesn’t get to redefine reality. And, no, you’re not the victim here.

If you’re going to defend the man, at least have the courage to admit that you’re doing so.
Argue the topic.
 
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Exactly. It's an implication as opposed to an actual threat or declaration.
which legally is as bad as making the threat, or the mafia never go to jail, "It be a shame if something bad happened to your store if you don't pay us."
 
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Argue the topic.
I made the topic, and yes that is part of it, he's the one making the threats, you got to prove that he's just bluster rather then us prove he is a threat, he's the one talking about bombing, and taking control and using violent language.

Also it's funny how the hysteric blown out of proportion leftist media of, Canada, Australia, France, Germany, Denmark, Mexico, britian Cuba and such are the ones that are being hysterical about his words. It's the old saying, if one person thinks your a jerk, they might be wrong, but if everyone thinks your a jerk maybe your wrong. the rest of the world isn't preparing for war with the US because they are just hysterical nuts.
 
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I made the topic, and yes that is part of it, he's the one making the threats, you got to prove that he's just bluster rather then us prove he is a threat, he's the one talking about bombing, and taking control and using violent language.
Oh so now he's threatening to bomb Denmark. That escalated quickly.
Also it's funny how the hysteric blown out of proportion leftist media of, Canada, Australia, France, Germany, Denmark, Mexico, britian Cuba and such are the ones that are being hysterical about his words. It's the old saying, if one person thinks your a jerk, they might be wrong, but if everyone thinks your a jerk maybe your wrong. the rest of the world isn't preparing for war with the US because they are just hysterical nuts.
Of course leftist media elsewhere is getting in on the hype gravy train. Trump hysteria is putting their kids through college. And like you said, it's a leftist thing, not everyone.
 
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I think Denmark should make an offer for the USA. If they offered national healthcare and a three year trial basis, i think the majority would take it. In business its called a reverse merger. The point though is you have to get the consent of the governed. Force without consent is un-American. Lincoln was just to force the south but they previously consented. The USA does not have to integrate Greenland to protect the shipping lanes or extract minerals.
 
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"Negotiation under the pressure of threat is extortion", is hyperbole.
No it isn't. Neither Denmark nor Greenland have any inclination to sell. Forcing any owner to sell "a good" under the threat of violence is extortion.
 
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No it isn't. Neither Denmark nor Greenland have any inclination to sell. Forcing any owner to sell "a good" under the threat of violence is extortion.
Maybe they're putting up a front to get a better deal. That is how negotiations work.
 
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Oh so now he's threatening to bomb Denmark. That escalated quickly.

Of course leftist media elsewhere is getting in on the hype gravy train. Trump hysteria is putting their kids through college. And like you said, it's a leftist thing, not everyone.
the bombing was mexico, just pointing out his wording has everyone on edge. And what media, were talking about goverments which aren't all leftists. If multiple goverments consider you a threat, your a threat, this isn't Iran, or Russia, this is what used to be your closest allies. Denmark lost more people helping in afganistan then any other country per capita.
 
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