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Trump says his 'own morality' is the only limit to his global power

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And Biden undid all of what Trump put in place and opened up the border to 20,000,000 illegal aliens to pour in. So what?
I know that is the Republican spiel but he didn't 'open the border' and the number you state is unsupported.
 
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I'm afraid it it. If someoneone points out his multiple failings then it would be a reasonable excuse for you to say 'Well, don't blame me - I didn't vote for him'. If someone asks who in heaven's name put a guy like this in charge, then you have to hold your hand up and accept responsibility. Saying that you didn't have a choice doesn't let you off the hook.

What I guess you could do is agree that he's an absolute disgrace from a moral point of view. Saying he's 'the lesser of two evils' doesn't really cover it.
When both choices are an evil and a disgrace, what does it matter what I call it? At least the immoral disgrace on my team is able to get things done. The immoral disgrace on your team couldn’t even talk in coherent sentences. And didn’t get anything done she was assigned to take care of.
 
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I know that is the Republican spiel but he didn't 'open the border' and the number you state is unsupported.
Yes, he did open the border in that he invited those people to come here with the promise of free housing, free healthcare, free schools, etc. and then he got rid of the policies Trump had in place that were actually effective for decreasing border crossings.

That number only reflects the ones that came in through the door. I’m sure there were millions more that came over with mules who completely bypassed the semi-legal route.
 
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At least you are admitting that he hasn’t started the wars.
Trump is trying to start a war in Venezuela and the infiltration and taking the president could be seen as war-like. He is threatening Greenland/Denmark.

Obama inherited two wars but did not start one. Biden didn't start a war. Carter didn't start a war nor was any soldier lost in combat. As Carter said, "We never dropped a bomb. We never fired a bullet." Any claim that Trump is the only modern president to never start a war is another falsehood.
 
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Yes, he did open the border in that he invited those people to come here with the promise of free housing, free healthcare, free schools, etc. and then he got rid of the policies Trump had in place that were actually effective for decreasing border crossings.

That number only reflects the ones that came in through the door. I’m sure there were millions more that came over with mules who completely bypassed the semi-legal route.
No, the number did not match ICE's contact numbers at all.
 
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When both choices are an evil and a disgrace, what does it matter what I call it?
It does. Else it reflects on you. It would mean you are ignoring the man he is just because you think his policies are beneficial to you. Personally I don't understand it when people call him out and say they still voted for him. My attitude would be 'a pox on both your parties'. If I think a politician has the morals of an alley cat and has no honour then they'll never get my vote. It's as simple as that. It wouldn't matter in the slightest how beneficial it would be for me.
 
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Trump is the only president in recent times to NOT get us into a war.
He just committed an act of war against Venezuela, and he's planning more such acts against Greenland and Mexico.
 
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And Biden undid all of what Trump put in place and opened up the border to 20,000,000 illegal aliens to pour in. So what?
Never happened. Trump built the wall, remember?
 
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Just read the book that people ON YOUR SIDE put out.
I thought you had a doctor's diagnosis or something that might hold up in court.

But once more you came up short.
Or go watch the congressional hearings where all this was discussed.
Congressional hearings? LOL.
But don’t claim to the purveyors of truth when you can’t be bothered keeping yourselves informed.
I'm still waiting for you to produce something that will hold up in court.
 
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Not Trumps fault, Democrats were greedy and wanted more than just legal status for dreamers. Just like the “bipartisan” bill this time around (which only included the handful of Republicans-in-Name-Only), the democrats demanded that they control all the terms of the bill. It didn’t take a ”call from Trump” to vote it down. There was nothing remotely bipartisan about it.

What the Supreme Court struck down was Trump’s plan to end DACA.
The democrats floated like $25B for The Wall, they wanted Trump to at least keep DACA mostly left alone.
He played hardball and ended up having to drain DOD/W construction dollars, to fund The Wall.

The ”art”, in the “Art of the Deal”, is sometimes paint-by-numbers.
 
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Ah, the Great Replacement theory--blasphemy and sedition all rolled into one.
I totally understand the anti-woke thing.

Conservatives would love it if we could just “go back to the ’good-old-days’”, (when people knew their place and didn’t complain so much about how ‘bad they got it’)!

That’s a valid and reasonable position to hold on to.
If one can be comfortable with that as a human being.
 
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The evil on my side is not even close to the evil the other side practices. Trump’s morality is not an evil of my side, it is a personal morality. I don’t call your side evil because Biden has dementia, I call your side evil because TPTB behind him hid it from the public because to get rid of Biden meant Kamala would have to assume power and, at the time, EVERYONE on the left could see who Kamala was and NOBODY wanted her. They were trying to figure out how to get rid of her without sounding the DEI bell. So instead, they formed a shadow government around Biden and used him as their puppet. THAT is what was evil. As well as the policies they implemented through that process.
Look how quick your side stopped being evil. As I said, you will holler about one side and excuse the other. Your fruit is plain too see.
 
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And what about Truman? Please explain that away with hoops and lines.
That was through congress and every public buildings work organization that reviews those actions. In other words, the polar opposite of what Trump is doing.
 
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I said in these forums before the election that both candidates were grave dangers to the Republic.

I just wasn't sure at the time which would ruin the Republic beyond recovery within four years.

I'm finding out now. I don't think Kamala would have been this decisive in her destruction of the Republic, nor her administration so effective in carrying it out.
 
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I said in these forums before the election that both candidates were grave dangers to the Republic.

I just wasn't sure at the time which would ruin the Republic beyond recovery within four years.

I'm finding out now. I don't think Kamala would have been this decisive in her destruction of the Republic, nor her administration so effective in carrying it out.
One thing I’ll give Trump credit, he’s been much more effective in implementing his agenda than any Democrat even could have been.

It’s amazing what you can get done when you have no regard towards the law, ethics or even public opinion.
 
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I said in these forums before the election that both candidates were grave dangers to the Republic.

I just wasn't sure at the time which would ruin the Republic beyond recovery within four years.

I'm finding out now. I don't think Kamala would have been this decisive in her destruction of the Republic, nor her administration so effective in carrying it out.
I agree. But that does not make me a Democrat. We have got to stop with this tribalism. If we vote for a candidate we are not obliged to defend their every word and action. In fact our obligation is to hold them accountable as best we can because we were complicit in putting them in office.
 
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One thing I’ll give Trump credit, he’s been much more effective in implementing his agenda than any Democrat even could have been.

It’s amazing what you can get done when you have no regard towards the law, ethics or even public opinion.
Plus House and Senate refusing any oversight responsibility.
 
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