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Trump says his 'own morality' is the only limit to his global power

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You mean the puppet masters behind Biden and his almost exclusive use of the autopen was legal? I think not!

And Obama spying on Trump and using a faked document (knowing it was a faked document) to get a FISA warrant against Trump was legal? Again, I think not.
Where are the charges? Hmmm?
 
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No Democratic president has one felony much less 34 criminal felonies.

What previous president had their businesses found to be guilty of criminal fraud?

What other president started a university and defrauded the students leading to a $25m judgement?

What other president committed fraud by taking money from their foundation for personal use?

His 'morality' is behind his knocking down the East Wing of the White House without congressional approval.
Fake convictions with no penalty based off charges made as a result of illegally changing the laws retroactively hardly counts as much of a conviction. It’s very telling, though, considering they had nothing to charge him with without retroactively changing the laws.

Let me see, who else took money from their foundation for personal use? Yes, that would be the Clintons (collectively). They took the money from their Clinton Foundation that was designated for Haiti for their daughter’s wedding.

And no other President ever had a real job before they went into politics, which is why they ran the country into the ground.
 
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And shall I produce the morality of the last few Democrats presidents?

I, personally, was not voting for a pastor, I was voting for a person to run the country and clean up the filth the last few (very immoral) Democrats have left behind.
Tell us more about how you bypass morality in your will to political power.
 
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Tell us more about how you bypass morality in your will to political power.
Is that English? If it is, can you paraphrase it with words that make sense? Thanks.
 
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Is that English? If it is, can you paraphrase it with words that make sense? Thanks.
It was indeed English. Let me simplify.

You are stating you will bypass your morals in order to gain the power to implement you political ideology. This strikes many of us as an interesting admission from a Christian.
 
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It was indeed English. Let me simplify.

You are stating you will bypass your morals in order to gain the power to implement you political ideology. This strikes many of us as an interesting admission from a Christian.
The answer is easy. One has to vote, often, for the lesser of two evils. The country needed a strong personality to fix the evils that are starting to overtake it. There was no one else who could do the job. And while I might not like all of Trumps morals, he is doing what he needs to do to keep the nation from going under.
 
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Gotta love how Trump lives in all y’all’s heads. Whatever are you going to do in 2024 when he’s not on the ballot? Y’all are going to have to actually create policies because “orange man bad” isn’t going to cut it anymore.
They'll still obsess over every little thing he says. Because in their heads he'll still be seen as an extremely dangerous influencer. And in their minds the whole "MAGA cult" will live on.
 
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Fake convictions with no penalty based off charges made as a result of illegally changing the laws retroactively hardly counts as much of a conviction. It’s very telling, though, considering they had nothing to charge him with without retroactively changing the laws.
Real convictions based on real law. He had to pay E. Jean Carroll $80m plus the second lawsuit.
Trump had to pay the victims of his Trump University $25m as a penalty.
The Trump organization had to pay a fine and the former CFO went to prison.
Trump had to pay a $2 million penalty for fraud regarding the Foundation and the foundation was dissolved. He is not allowed to start anther one in New York.
As to his 34 criminal felonies, he got a pass because he was elected President so Bragg asked for the minimum sentence.

He has practiced fraud his whole life.


Let me see, who else took money from their foundation for personal use? Yes, that would be the Clintons (collectively). They took the money from their Clinton Foundation that was designated for Haiti for their daughter’s wedding.
Nope. Didn't happen. That smear was thoroughly debunked by numerous fact checking sites. That was one of the many lies said about the Clintons in the 2016 election.

And no other President ever had a real job before they went into politics, which is why they ran the country into the ground.
Nope.
Jimmy Carter was a peanut farmer and a nuclear engineer. Eisenhower was in the military and commander of the Allied forces in Europe. Truman was a farmer and haberdasher. Reagan was an actor before he was Governor of California. Lyndon B. Johnson was a teacher before getting into politics. George H. Bush was in oil. Even Lincoln had been a postmaster general . George Washington was a farmer before being a military general , then president. Even Andrew Johnson had been a tailor.

Trump is the one running the economy into the ground. Unemployment is up, and 2025 had the lowest job growth since 2020, and the lowest job growth in a non-recession year since 2003. Prices are too high and he has not brought them down at all. . Many are losing their health insurance as well.

His 'morality' is to focus on things like a gold ballroom larger than the White House, and starting war in Venezuela to steal their oil, and threatening a NATO ally, Greenland, where we already have a base and could have had more bases there. The heck with the people and their health insurance or proverty issues.
 
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Nope. I had almost forgotten there was a “Biden” presidency.
Then he couldn’t have been too bad.

I’ll never forget this current presidency.
 
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And no other President ever had a real job before they went into politics,
Trump has never worked a real job in his entire over-privileged life.
 
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Jimmy Carter was a peanut farmer and a nuclear engineer. Eisenhower was in the military and commander of the Allied forces in Europe. Truman was a farmer and haberdasher. Reagan was an actor before he was Governor of California. Lyndon B. Johnson was a teacher before getting into politics. George H. Bush was in oil. Even Lincoln had been a postmaster general . George Washington was a farmer before being a military general , then president. Even Andrew Johnson had been a tailor.
Even for this list of presidents we can also find other , pre-politics jobs:

Eisenhower was president of Columbia University.
Reagan was president of the Screen Actors Guild
Lincoln was a lawyer.
 
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Trump has never worked a real job in his entire over-privileged life.

What a bunch baloney! Trump is a world famous developer who turned a tired, failing, sleepy village into the global metropolis of Manhattan. Atlantic City was a failing travel plaza on highway 9 until Trump made it great. Trump is the most famous and recognized television personality the world over due to his successful reality shows. Trump won an Academy Award for his performance in the highly successful Home Alone franchise. Trump was Times Man of the Year over 50 times.

Go peddle your partisan lies somewhere else. We deal with absolute truth in Trumpland.
 
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The answer is easy. One has to vote, often, for the lesser of two evils. The country needed a strong personality to fix the evils that are starting to overtake it. There was no one else who could do the job. And while I might not like all of Trumps morals, he is doing what he needs to do to keep the nation from going under.
Yet you castigate the other side for being evil. If both are evil then you are simply picking a team. That is not morality, it is opportunism.
 
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They'll still obsess over every little thing he says.
There is a whole nuclear-armed "Department of War" that is dedicated to obsessing over every little thing he says.

You don't know the extent of how things said in the White House reverberate downward. If Trump were to say, casually, "I don't like red ink, let's not use red ink anymore," there would be people searching every desk in every military unit, in every ship in the Navy, breaking red ink pens in half.
 
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Real convictions based on real law. He had to pay E. Jean Carroll $80m plus the second lawsuit.
Trump had to pay the victims of his Trump University $25m as a penalty.
The Trump organization had to pay a fine and the former CFO went to prison.
Trump had to pay a $2 million penalty for fraud regarding the Foundation and the foundation was dissolved. He is not allowed to start anther one in New York.
As to his 34 criminal felonies, he got a pass because he was elected President so Bragg asked for the minimum sentence.

He has practiced fraud his whole life.



Nope. Didn't happen. That smear was thoroughly debunked by numerous fact checking sites. That was one of the many lies said about the Clintons in the 2016 election.


Nope.
Jimmy Carter was a peanut farmer and a nuclear engineer. Eisenhower was in the military and commander of the Allied forces in Europe. Truman was a farmer and haberdasher. Reagan was an actor before he was Governor of California. Lyndon B. Johnson was a teacher before getting into politics. George H. Bush was in oil. Even Lincoln had been a postmaster general . George Washington was a farmer before being a military general , then president. Even Andrew Johnson had been a tailor.

Trump is the one running the economy into the ground. Unemployment is up, and 2025 had the lowest job growth since 2020, and the lowest job growth in a non-recession year since 2003. Prices are too high and he has not brought them down at all. . Many are losing their health insurance as well.

His 'morality' is to focus on things like a gold ballroom larger than the White House, and starting war in Venezuela to steal their oil, and threatening a NATO ally, Greenland, where we already have a base and could have had more bases there. The heck with the people and their health insurance or proverty issues.
All opinion spouted by the fanantic left. Just like all the other lies told all across media that later had to be retracted (though done in small print so that nobody noticed the retractions.). And again, the laws were retroactively changed so Trump could be prosecuted.

You do know, don’t you, that people who are not shallow can focus on more than one thing at a time?

Tell me why the left is soooo consumed that Trump is having a ballroom added to the White House, AT NO COST TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, to be utilized by every administration after his, that will save taxpayers millions of dollars? Why is that? Why does the left hate the American taxpayer so much that they are willing to waste their hard-earned money on something that is being provided for free? Why is the left so dead set against the safety of the tax paying American people that they are willing to kill policemen doing their job who are trying to protect citizens from violent illegal alien criminals?

Why??? Why is the left on the wrong side of these issues?

Don’t bother preaching at me if you are not going to answer my questions. I am not in church, I am on a discussion board.
 
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Yet you castigate the other side for being evil. If both are evil then you are simply picking a team. That is not morality, it is opportunism.
I obviously did pick a team as I went on to explain. Presidents come and go, it is the team I am voting for. The team that puts the citizens of the USA first, the people who pay the taxes, the people the US Constitution was written for.
 
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I obviously did pick a team as I went on to explain. Presidents come and go, it is the team I am voting for. The team that puts the citizens of the USA first, the people who pay the taxes, the people the US Constitution was written for.
Yes, and then yell at the other side for being evil. Don't get me wrong I fully support and agree with your picking a side. It is the calling out of the other side while knowing your side is evil as well that I take issue with.
 
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Tell me why the left is soooo consumed that Trump is having a ballroom added to the White House, AT NO COST TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, to be utilized by every administration after his, that will save taxpayers millions of dollars? Why is that?
Because it's not his house.

I've lived in government-owned housing myself. We didn't get to make major modifications even at our own expense. Put up a fence, maybe, and then only as strictly specified by the housing regulations (military housing is the stiffest HOA in the world).
 
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Yes, and then yell at the other side for being evil. Don't get me wrong I fully support and agree with your picking a side. It is the calling out of the other side while knowing your side is evil as well that I take issue with.
The evil on my side is not even close to the evil the other side practices. Trump’s morality is not an evil of my side, it is a personal morality. I don’t call your side evil because Biden has dementia, I call your side evil because TPTB behind him hid it from the public because to get rid of Biden meant Kamala would have to assume power and, at the time, EVERYONE on the left could see who Kamala was and NOBODY wanted her. They were trying to figure out how to get rid of her without sounding the DEI bell. So instead, they formed a shadow government around Biden and used him as their puppet. THAT is what was evil. As well as the policies they implemented through that process.
 
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