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Hundreds protest in Minneapolis after ICE officer kills Renee Nicole Macklin Good

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"It's my right for me and my friends to park our cars across the road to block law enforcement if we don't agree with the law they're trying to enforce" isn't an incentive structure we should be nurturing.
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"I've got the badge, I don't want any inconvenience while I do my job, you better do what I say immediately with no guff, otherwise here comes the Glock" isn't a reasonable expectation for anyone getting into the field of law enforcement, no more than a local cop thinking "I don't want to ever encounter profanity when I'm giving someone a speeding ticket"
Lol. To me, the whole concept of lethal force being used here doesn't really make it an equitable "both sides are causing trouble".

One attitude is at most, an inconvinience, the other side ends the life of a human and destroys a family.
 
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Which is abuse of that officer. Even if he knows in his heart that what he did is wrong, the government will make him pretend to be a righteous hero.
And people praise a society where people can be killed by the government for disobedience.
 
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And people praise a society where people can be killed by the government for disobedience.
In many cases the same people that railed against minor inconveniences during COVID like mask mandates. Funny how the federal government isn't the problem anymore.
 
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But go ahead and charge the officer for murder, I couldn't care less. But she messed around and found out, regardless.
Prayers for the repose of her soul, and for those who mourn. She shouldn't have been tormenting them or messing around, but she didn't deserve to die either. If that makes sense?
 
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What is the absolutely most depressing thing about this the admministration's response. I can guarantee that in Australia or the UK, someone high up, quite probably the PM in Australia's case, would make a public comment that this loss of life was a tragedy and a full investigation would be carried out immediately.

But what do we get in the US? An immediate castigation of the woman by the president and others insinuating that it was completely justified that she was shot in the face. I mean...good grief. What is wrong with the country?
 
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But what do we get in the US? An immediate castigation of the woman by the president and others insinuating that it was completely justified that she was shot in the face. I mean...good grief. What is wrong with the country?
They called her a "domestic terrorist".

Thats the kind of people now running exec agencies in the USA.
 
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It's not smart behavior. I wouldn't be stupid enough to try that.
Because they’re dangerous, trigger happy and will kill you for inconveniencing them.
 
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And people praise a society where people can be killed by the government for disobedience.
Let’s remember a week ago people on the right were arguing for regime change because of how Venezuela treats its citizens and in Iran for government agents shooting protesters.
 
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If I do the same to a fire truck or ambulance when they're on the way to doing their job, it's a felony.
What’s the charge when it’s ICE blocking a medic from administering potentially life saving treatment?
 
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What’s the charge when it’s ICE blocking a medic from administering potentially life saving treatment?

They had to be sure she wasn't a threat.
 
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Let’s remember a week ago people on the right were arguing for regime change because of how Venezuela treats its citizens and in Iran for government agents shooting protesters.
All these things are *not* exactly the same.
 
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Because they’re dangerous, trigger happy and will kill you for inconveniencing them.
That's why I shake uncontrollably if I get pulled over. It's a very dangerous, and scary situation, dealing with law enforcement.

Do NOT mess with them. I'm telling you.

.. Those groups who train other people to intentionally bother ICE officials are total fools, and my understanding is that Ms. Good was a part of that.

 
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Lol. To me, the whole concept of lethal force being used here doesn't really make it an equitable "both sides are causing trouble".

One attitude is at most, an inconvinience, the other side ends the life of a human and destroys a family.

It's not just a minor inconvenience... parking one's SUV across the road to block law enforcement from getting to where they need to be is a little more serious (and then hitting the gas while one of them is in front of your vehicle when you realize you're about to be apprehended makes it even more serious than that...regardless of intent)

While it's not on the level of "pointed a gun at a cop", it's certainly not on the level of "put a whoopie cushion on his seat at the coffee shop" either.
 
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That's why I shake uncontrollably if I get pulled over. It's a very dangerous, and scary situation, dealing with law enforcement.
The astounding thing is that you appear to think that it's normal.
 
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But you are unlikely to be gunned down on the spot by a fireman or an EMT for it. It doesn't matter. You don't need to fuss over whether it was legal or not The admistration has declared it a legal hit and their Christian supporters have declared it righteous killing, It's over.
Most people are unlikely to get gunned down if they're not actively impeding a law enforcement operation (and then make an apprehension fleeing attempt with a 3,000 pound piece of metal) as well.

Point being?

Calling it a "hit" is hyperbole (acting as if they woke up in the morning looking for an excuse to shoot someone). If she'd been standing on the sidewalk yelling expletives like the rest of the protestors that were there, would she have been shot? Or were her actions the first domino to fall in the pattern of escalation?
 
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That exists for good reason.

It's likely those vehicles are responding to an emergency where loss of life is possible. The same gravity cannot be said for an accountant.
Right, and the same could be said for a law enforcement officer on their way to make an arrest.
 
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