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Donald Trump Says US To Launch Land Action in Venezuela ‘Very Soon’
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Such old think! The talking point has arrived, international law, sovereignty, to the dustbin of history with it all.
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If thats the case then Biden, especially Obama and Clinton all committed an act of war. Obama actually went into another nation and killed the targets as well as some innocents. When taking out terrorist leaders.
Biden put the bounty on Maduro. That means Biden thought it was ok that someone capture Maduro and bring him back to the US. So he set up the whole idea and thought it was ok. Trump just acted on what Biden setup.
What is wrong with bombing Irans nuclear facility to stop them building a nuclear bomb to use on Isreal or the west. We know Islamist want this. So nuclear weapons in their hands is dangerous for the world. Whats wrong with taking out terrorist who are behind all the Islamist terror around the world or on the US.
What is your solution. Just let them continue. Give them more money to buy their cooperation like Biden. Only to have that money used to create more terror.
Only those who want the terror and evil to continue. How can you say stopping the nuclear ability of Iran to blow up the world as an act of agression. The US has done many acts like this throughout history and I think the world is grateful. As the reality is I think the world would be a more dangerous place if not.
The actual people affected, the Nigerian Christians, those who are saved from Irans bombs and the Venezuelan people who celebrate the end of a dictator. The other people from nations where Trump has helped arrange peace deals like between Azerbaijan and Armenian, the Abraham Accord and the Democratic Republic of Congo and Rwanda and others. Surely these are not acts of war but towards peace and a more safer world.
Why is it when other presidents like Biden, Obama and Clinton do it its all ok. But when Trump does the same and probably in a more effected way with the massive casualties and damage caused by past presidents. Its suddenly bad. Me thinks some partisan politics is at play.
Yeah we have heard this narrative before. Trump and Vance are Hitler and the Third Reich, Hegseth is commiting war crimes, Isreal is commiting genocide ect. Its the same old narratives. Past presidents have done the same and it was ok then.
So, has he acted on it. Has he ever acted on all the talk he makes. Lets just allow things to pan out. All he has done is acted on a Biden indictement and reward to capture Maduro to bring him to justice. Why not just say thats a good thing. Many Venezuelan think its good. The actual people the Dems say they care about.
The Dems are going to lose the Latino vote. How do you think they feel when the Dems are going around demanding Maduro be released and allowed to go back and abuse people. This is crazy.
There is no war. It was a 2 hour law enforcement operation that Biden setup to happen.
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Russia sends a naval vessel to escort an oil tanker the U.S. is pursuing.
Russia has dispatched at least one naval vessel to meet and escort an oil tanker that the U.S. military has been pursuing and trying to seize, according to a U.S. official briefed on the operation who requested anonymity to discuss a sensitive matter.
The development deepens the confrontation between the two countries over the tanker, known until recently as the Bella 1 and now called the Marinera.
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Regarding those White House discussions with the oil companies....
Energy Secretary Chris Wright is running point on the White House effort to coax oil companies to invest in Venezuela, according to industry officials. Since Monday, he has talked with the CEOs of the three major oil companies that would be positioned to drill there: Chevron, the sole remaining U.S. firm that has operations in that country; ConocoPhillips, which is still owed some $8 billion after its assets were taken when it exited nearly two decades ago; and ExxonMobil, which also previously operated in Venezuela and is owed about $1 billion. The Energy Department said in an email that Wright will meet privately with executives from the firms during a Goldman Sachs industry event in Miami that starts Wednesday.
Meanwhile, Trump is hinting the US taxpayers could potentially pave the way:
....Trump has started telling reluctant oil company leaders that he might make it worth their while.
“A tremendous amount of money will have to be spent, and the oil companies will spend it, and then they’ll get reimbursed by us or through revenue,” he told NBC on Monday.
Using taxpayer-funded cash subsidies to incentivize oil companies to pump abroad would be unprecedented, industry analysts say.
...so, Trump is canceling U.S. based wind, solar projects, some of which were ready to go into production, and then proposes spending our money to secure oil fields in Venezuela? And of course, those fields may need to be secured by, you guessed it, the U.S. military or possibly private security firms....all funded by us.
Energy Secretary Chris Wright is running point on the White House effort to coax oil companies to invest in Venezuela, according to industry officials. Since Monday, he has talked with the CEOs of the three major oil companies that would be positioned to drill there: Chevron, the sole remaining U.S. firm that has operations in that country; ConocoPhillips, which is still owed some $8 billion after its assets were taken when it exited nearly two decades ago; and ExxonMobil, which also previously operated in Venezuela and is owed about $1 billion. The Energy Department said in an email that Wright will meet privately with executives from the firms during a Goldman Sachs industry event in Miami that starts Wednesday.
Meanwhile, Trump is hinting the US taxpayers could potentially pave the way:
....Trump has started telling reluctant oil company leaders that he might make it worth their while.
“A tremendous amount of money will have to be spent, and the oil companies will spend it, and then they’ll get reimbursed by us or through revenue,” he told NBC on Monday.
Using taxpayer-funded cash subsidies to incentivize oil companies to pump abroad would be unprecedented, industry analysts say.
...so, Trump is canceling U.S. based wind, solar projects, some of which were ready to go into production, and then proposes spending our money to secure oil fields in Venezuela? And of course, those fields may need to be secured by, you guessed it, the U.S. military or possibly private security firms....all funded by us.
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I was a bit lazy in finding the right ones. But these images are a reflection of recent conflicts on the streets in several European nations, Britain and now the US.
Do you honestly believe the conflicts over immigration have not increased in the west. Why deny such an obvious fact.
Germany’s political polarization spills into the streets ahead of federal elections
Germany’s political polarization spills into the streets ahead of federal elections
An analysis of political violence in Germany amid increasing attacks on politicians and stark political divides.
acleddata.com
Dutch anti-immigration protest turns violent
Police used tear gas and water cannons to disperse rioters in The Hague on Saturday.
www.politico.eu
Sweden looks into the abyss
The Scandinavian nation of 10.6 million people is facing a national crisis because of its failure to successfully integrate record numbers of immigrants.
Sweden faces a crisis because of flood of immigrants
Immigrants have transformed Sweden, creating a national crisis because many of the newcomers are integrating poorly into society.
www.gisreportsonline.com
The changing politics of immigration in Nordic countries
The chill factor: the changing politics of immigration in Nordic countries
Salience of immigration in politics and the push for more restrictive immigration policies in the Nordic countries.
mixedmigration.org
we know nations like Germany and France where they had generous immigration that this has caused division and violence. But even the Nordic nations are having problems and are now tightening up imigration and getting rid of all the trouble makers who are bring their terror with them.
Its a well known fact that immigration is now a national issue in most western nations and its mainly radical ideologies coming in and undermining western ways of life.
Stop trying to pretend immigration is not a major issue around the world and especially in western nations. The whole multicultural ideas has failed in recent years. The importing of radical ideology has undermined the west and this needs to be stopped. Otherwise there will be no west, no democracy or freedoms.
Socialism does not always follow the strict traditional definition. For one it is no longer about class. It is now cultural Marxism and everyone knows this. Its about power and oppression regarding race, gender, sex, class and whatever new protected identity is created.
The idea that white colonial and priviledged oppressors need to be stopped and replaced with some DEI utopia. So socialism is modernised. Now its changing the institutions. Deplatforming the oppressors. stopping the oppressors even with violence.
We actually now hear the explicit language of such a Marxist revolution when the Dems call for the military to disobey orders, calling Trumps admin as oppressors, only interested in proping up elite corporations. Colonising other nations ect. The language is clear. Its classic Marxism.
If there is a party which is volnurable to Marxism its the Left ideologically. When politics becomes radicalised and polarised parties go to their extremes. For the Left its Marxism and even communism. For the right its fascism and alt right nationalism.
Democratic Party looking more and more like a Marxist regime
Democratic Party looking more and more like a Marxist regime
The radicals assembled in Chicago this week under the banner of joy and hope, but their rhetoric was filled with anger and hatred. Their actions and proposals, however, are far worse for the future of America.
www.washingtontimes.com
Lol, really, universal health and education paid for by the rich. Biden wiped out student debts. Harris called for defunding police. Walts was giving away tax payers money for welfare programs all over the place. Dems have massive budgets for welfare and their policies are anti big business. Tax the rich to equalise income.
But its go more radical in recent years. When supporters are making death threats, burning down cities, and murdering the opposition to stop the oppressors and bring about the revolution. Its getting out of hand.
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That's pretty much nothing but a slanderous rant, but even so you have failed to fabtricate evidence of the workers taking control of the means of production.I was a bit lazy in finding the right ones. But these images are a reflection of recent conflicts on the streets in several European nations, Britain and now the US.
Do you honestly believe the conflicts over immigration have not increased in the west. Why deny such an obvious fact.
Germany’s political polarization spills into the streets ahead of federal elections
Germany’s political polarization spills into the streets ahead of federal elections
An analysis of political violence in Germany amid increasing attacks on politicians and stark political divides.
Dutch anti-immigration protest turns violent
Police used tear gas and water cannons to disperse rioters in The Hague on Saturday.
Sweden looks into the abyss
The Scandinavian nation of 10.6 million people is facing a national crisis because of its failure to successfully integrate record numbers of immigrants.
Sweden faces a crisis because of flood of immigrants
Immigrants have transformed Sweden, creating a national crisis because many of the newcomers are integrating poorly into society.
The changing politics of immigration in Nordic countries
The chill factor: the changing politics of immigration in Nordic countries
Salience of immigration in politics and the push for more restrictive immigration policies in the Nordic countries.
we know nations like Germany and France where they had generous immigration that this has caused division and violence. But even the Nordic nations are having problems and are now tightening up imigration and getting rid of all the trouble makers who are bring their terror with them.
Its a well known fact that immigration is now a national issue in most western nations and its mainly radical ideologies coming in and undermining western ways of life.
Stop trying to pretend immigration is not a major issue around the world and especially in western nations. The whole multicultural ideas has failed in recent years. The importing of radical ideology has undermined the west and this needs to be stopped. Otherwise there will be no west, no democracy or freedoms.
Socialism does not always follow the strict traditional definition. For one it is no longer about class. It is now cultural Marxism and everyone knows this. Its about power and oppression regarding race, gender, sex, class and whatever new protected identity is created.
The idea that white colonial and priviledged oppressors need to be stopped and replaced with some DEI utopia. So socialism is modernised. Now its changing the institutions. Deplatforming the oppressors. stopping the oppressors even with violence.
We actually now hear the explicit language of such a Marxist revolution when the Dems call for the military to disobey orders, calling Trumps admin as oppressors, only interested in proping up elite corporations. Colonising other nations ect. The language is clear. Its classic Marxism.
If there is a party which is volnurable to Marxism its the Left ideologically. When politics becomes radicalised and polarised parties go to their extremes. For the Left its Marxism and even communism. For the right its fascism and alt right nationalism.
Democratic Party looking more and more like a Marxist regime
Democratic Party looking more and more like a Marxist regime
The radicals assembled in Chicago this week under the banner of joy and hope, but their rhetoric was filled with anger and hatred. Their actions and proposals, however, are far worse for the future of America.
Lol, really, universal health and education paid for by the rich. Biden wiped out student debts. Harris called for defunding police. Walts was giving away tax payers money for welfare programs all over the place. Dems have massive budgets for welfare and their policies are anti big business. Tax the rich to equalise income.
But its go more radical in recent years. When supporters are making death threats, burning down cities, and murdering the opposition to stop the oppressors and bring about the revolution. Its getting out of hand.
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So where is the radical swing to the left you should be trying to evidence? You were alluding to that EU countries had turned radically left in post #246.I was a bit lazy in finding the right ones. But these images are a reflection of recent conflicts on the streets in several European nations, Britain and now the US.
Do you honestly believe the conflicts over immigration have not increased in the west. Why deny such an obvious fact.
Germany’s political polarization spills into the streets ahead of federal elections
Germany’s political polarization spills into the streets ahead of federal elections
An analysis of political violence in Germany amid increasing attacks on politicians and stark political divides.
Dutch anti-immigration protest turns violent
Police used tear gas and water cannons to disperse rioters in The Hague on Saturday.
Sweden looks into the abyss
The Scandinavian nation of 10.6 million people is facing a national crisis because of its failure to successfully integrate record numbers of immigrants.
Sweden faces a crisis because of flood of immigrants
Immigrants have transformed Sweden, creating a national crisis because many of the newcomers are integrating poorly into society.
The changing politics of immigration in Nordic countries
The chill factor: the changing politics of immigration in Nordic countries
Salience of immigration in politics and the push for more restrictive immigration policies in the Nordic countries.
we know nations like Germany and France where they had generous immigration that this has caused division and violence. But even the Nordic nations are having problems and are now tightening up imigration and getting rid of all the trouble makers who are bring their terror with them.
Its a well known fact that immigration is now a national issue in most western nations and its mainly radical ideologies coming in and undermining western ways of life.
Stop trying to pretend immigration is not a major issue around the world and especially in western nations. The whole multicultural ideas has failed in recent years. The importing of radical ideology has undermined the west and this needs to be stopped. Otherwise there will be no west, no democracy or freedoms.
Socialism does not always follow the strict traditional definition. For one it is no longer about class. It is now cultural Marxism and everyone knows this. Its about power and oppression regarding race, gender, sex, class and whatever new protected identity is created.
The idea that white colonial and priviledged oppressors need to be stopped and replaced with some DEI utopia. So socialism is modernised. Now its changing the institutions. Deplatforming the oppressors. stopping the oppressors even with violence.
We actually now hear the explicit language of such a Marxist revolution when the Dems call for the military to disobey orders, calling Trumps admin as oppressors, only interested in proping up elite corporations. Colonising other nations ect. The language is clear. Its classic Marxism.
If there is a party which is volnurable to Marxism its the Left ideologically. When politics becomes radicalised and polarised parties go to their extremes. For the Left its Marxism and even communism. For the right its fascism and alt right nationalism.
Democratic Party looking more and more like a Marxist regime
Democratic Party looking more and more like a Marxist regime
The radicals assembled in Chicago this week under the banner of joy and hope, but their rhetoric was filled with anger and hatred. Their actions and proposals, however, are far worse for the future of America.
Lol, really, universal health and education paid for by the rich. Biden wiped out student debts. Harris called for defunding police. Walts was giving away tax payers money for welfare programs all over the place. Dems have massive budgets for welfare and their policies are anti big business. Tax the rich to equalise income.
But its go more radical in recent years. When supporters are making death threats, burning down cities, and murdering the opposition to stop the oppressors and bring about the revolution. Its getting out of hand.
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As far as I know the US and Venezuela have a history of joint oil ventures. Why not they are in the same region. It makes sense like other block nations that nations in the same region do deals with each other.
The US have knowledge, capital and expertise to get the Venezuelan oil operational and benefiting both nations. But especially Venezuela.
What I like to know is why Russia and China are meddling in the backyard of the US and doing illegal oil deals. Avoiding laws and taxes and who knows what else. Such as weapons deals and sharing intel for terrorism and crime. Its too shady.
Let the US get the oil legal and operational so that those in the immediate region are the ones benefiting.
The US have knowledge, capital and expertise to get the Venezuelan oil operational and benefiting both nations. But especially Venezuela.
What I like to know is why Russia and China are meddling in the backyard of the US and doing illegal oil deals. Avoiding laws and taxes and who knows what else. Such as weapons deals and sharing intel for terrorism and crime. Its too shady.
Let the US get the oil legal and operational so that those in the immediate region are the ones benefiting.
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You do realise Marxism has moved on from the class war that it began from. Now into cultural Marxism.
Ai says
Cultural Marxism links Antonio Gramsci's theory of cultural hegemony to a strategy for social change, suggesting that the ruling class maintains power not just through force, but by shaping common sense and values via cultural institutions (like education, media, religion) to gain consent. Gramsci argued that for revolution, the oppressed class must build its own "counter-hegemony" by creating worker-intellectuals who challenge dominant ideas within civil society, a shift from traditional Marxist focus on economic revolution. "Cultural Marxism" is often used by critics to describe this idea as a deliberate, subversive plot to undermine Western culture, while supporters see it as a valid analysis of power dynamics.
The "Cultural Marxism" Label
- Origin: The term links Gramsci's theories to later thinkers (like the Frankfurt School) who explored cultural power, suggesting a long-term strategy for cultural subversion.
- Interpretation: Critics, particularly on the right, use "Cultural Marxism" to frame these ideas as a conscious, harmful agenda to dismantle traditional Western values (family, nation, religion) and institutions, fostering societal instability.
- Goal (as perceived by critics): To demoralize and destabilize society, making it ripe for radical political change,
Antonio Gramsci: the Godfather of Cultural Marxism
Described as one of the world’s most important and influential Marxist theorists since Marx himself, if you are not familiar with Antonio Gramsci, you should be.
fee.org
The Complex Relationship between Marxism and Wokeness
People who observe that Marxism is somehow tied into all of this Woke stuff, then, are certainly not wrong, but it just as certainly isn’t Marxism.
newdiscourses.com
Critical Race Theory, Marxism, and the Problem of Ideology
I am not saying the modern version is an exact copy of classical Marxism. Nor has all the same applications. But the fundemental ideology of a upper class or group of powerful people oppressing the masses is the same., Except now its applied to race, gender, religion, sex, and many other ide3ntities that are percieved as disadvantaged and oppressed.
Why do you think we have seen all the protests and violence over bad corporations, colonialist, whites, police, and any group percieved as oppressive. The the violence against ICE is another example. People believe in rising up even with violence against the establishment.
It use to be up until Trump got in that the revolution to take the institutions and establishment was working. Woke and DEI was everywhere. The alternative ideology was implemented.
But Trump stopped a lot of that and as a result people are up in arms. Calling Trump a Hitler and that he and the administration needs to be taken down. Its a matter of democracy and life and death according to many Dems.
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You do understand the meaning of the word "joint," right? That requires cooperation between countries, not one country forcing the other to do its bidding at gunpoint.
The same reason we are - they want oil at lower prices.
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That makes sense, I suppose. All the better to counter your cultural fascism. However, the battle between actual fascism and actual socialism is still a thing that the culture war is obscuring. You need to keep the distinction in mind.You do realise Marxism has moved on from the class war that it began from. Now into cultural Marxism.
Ai says
Cultural Marxism links Antonio Gramsci's theory of cultural hegemony to a strategy for social change, suggesting that the ruling class maintains power not just through force, but by shaping common sense and values via cultural institutions (like education, media, religion) to gain consent. Gramsci argued that for revolution, the oppressed class must build its own "counter-hegemony" by creating worker-intellectuals who challenge dominant ideas within civil society, a shift from traditional Marxist focus on economic revolution. "Cultural Marxism" is often used by critics to describe this idea as a deliberate, subversive plot to undermine Western culture, while supporters see it as a valid analysis of power dynamics.
The "Cultural Marxism" Label
- Origin: The term links Gramsci's theories to later thinkers (like the Frankfurt School) who explored cultural power, suggesting a long-term strategy for cultural subversion.
- Interpretation: Critics, particularly on the right, use "Cultural Marxism" to frame these ideas as a conscious, harmful agenda to dismantle traditional Western values (family, nation, religion) and institutions, fostering societal instability.
- Goal (as perceived by critics): To demoralize and destabilize society, making it ripe for radical political change,
Antonio Gramsci: the Godfather of Cultural Marxism
Described as one of the world’s most important and influential Marxist theorists since Marx himself, if you are not familiar with Antonio Gramsci, you should be.
The Complex Relationship between Marxism and Wokeness
People who observe that Marxism is somehow tied into all of this Woke stuff, then, are certainly not wrong, but it just as certainly isn’t Marxism.
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What's illegal about it? They're buying oil. Just because it's illegal for Americans to buy Venezuelan oil doesn't make it illegal for the whole world.
Taxes? What are you blathering about?
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Why did you shift from socialism without qualifiers, to cultural marxism? Which itself is a term used mostly by right-wing ideologues.You do realise Marxism has moved on from the class war that it began from. Now into cultural Marxism.
Ai says
Cultural Marxism links Antonio Gramsci's theory of cultural hegemony to a strategy for social change, suggesting that the ruling class maintains power not just through force, but by shaping common sense and values via cultural institutions (like education, media, religion) to gain consent. Gramsci argued that for revolution, the oppressed class must build its own "counter-hegemony" by creating worker-intellectuals who challenge dominant ideas within civil society, a shift from traditional Marxist focus on economic revolution. "Cultural Marxism" is often used by critics to describe this idea as a deliberate, subversive plot to undermine Western culture, while supporters see it as a valid analysis of power dynamics.
The "Cultural Marxism" Label
- Origin: The term links Gramsci's theories to later thinkers (like the Frankfurt School) who explored cultural power, suggesting a long-term strategy for cultural subversion.
- Interpretation: Critics, particularly on the right, use "Cultural Marxism" to frame these ideas as a conscious, harmful agenda to dismantle traditional Western values (family, nation, religion) and institutions, fostering societal instability.
- Goal (as perceived by critics): To demoralize and destabilize society, making it ripe for radical political change,
Antonio Gramsci: the Godfather of Cultural Marxism
Described as one of the world’s most important and influential Marxist theorists since Marx himself, if you are not familiar with Antonio Gramsci, you should be.
The Complex Relationship between Marxism and Wokeness
People who observe that Marxism is somehow tied into all of this Woke stuff, then, are certainly not wrong, but it just as certainly isn’t Marxism.
Critical Race Theory, Marxism, and the Problem of Ideology
I am not saying the modern version is an exact copy of classical Marxism. Nor has all the same applications. But the fundemental ideology of a upper class or group of powerful people oppressing the masses is the same., Except now its applied to race, gender, religion, sex, and many other ide3ntities that are percieved as disadvantaged and oppressed.
Why do you think we have seen all the protests and violence over bad corporations, colonialist, whites, police, and any group percieved as oppressive. The the violence against ICE is another example. People believe in rising up even with violence against the establishment.
It use to be up until Trump got in that the revolution to take the institutions and establishment was working. Woke and DEI was everywhere. The alternative ideology was implemented.
But Trump stopped a lot of that and as a result people are up in arms. Calling Trump a Hitler and that he and the administration needs to be taken down. Its a matter of democracy and life and death according to many Dems.
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Who said anything about supporting cultural fascism. Why do you have to make it an us and them thing and especially at the extremes.
I agree. As mentioned this is more than just cultural marxism. Its a mixture of a lot of things like feminism, social constructionism, postmodernism, moral relativism, materialism and other ideas. I think modern day position on intellectual and ethical ideas is fast changing and irratic at times.
I think experiential and emotional. The political has become the personal and so all aspects of private life and identity have come into play. The new reality is individual and group lived experiences.
I have heard some philosophers mention the strange mix of Marxism and Woke. But somehow it has meshed. Thatys why we see contradictions like objections to arresting a dictators and demanding his release. While trying to uphold the liberation of oppressed people.
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US seizes Russian-flagged tanker in Atlantic as UK confirms it gave support to operation
Yesterday, the official news agency Tass quoted the foreign ministry as saying that it was "following the abnormal situation with alarm". It also called the tanker "our vessel". Unusually, none of those remarks were circulated by the foreign ministry's accounts on social media or went up on the ministry website.After the tanker's seizure, the tone remained low-key, but has changed slightly. The Russian transport ministry says the tanker only had "a temporary permission" to fly the Russian flag, and that "no state has the right to use force against vessels properly registered in other countries' jurisdictions".
Russian officials have not commented on reports saying that Moscow had sent a submarine to protect the tanker, but one popular pro-war account, Rybar, claimed that the sub was "24 hours late" to meet the Americans near the tanker.
The Russian transport ministry says "no state has the right to use force against vessels properly registered in other countries' jurisdictions".
It adds US forces boarded the Marinera at about 15:00 Moscow time [1200 GMT], after which communications with the vessel were lost.
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I always thought it would be the US and Russia against the world, looking like we're going at it alone. Thankfully Trump is in his twilight years and probably won't hold back on unleashing global thermal nuclear war on all our enemies.
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