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Now does everyone understand why the "right to refuse illegal orders" video was made?

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Always in His Presence said:
You should let the government know they made a mistake


Secretary of War HON Pete Hegseth​

The Honorable Pete Hegseth is the secretary of war. He was sworn in on Jan. 25, 2025, as the 29th secretary of defense before the department's name was changed on Sept. 5, 2025.

Truth is such an aggravating thing at times
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How 'bout we split the difference and just call him "Secretary Pete"? Will that work?
 
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Nithavela said:
They have nothing to celebrate, but I'm happy that they are happy for a while.
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I'm supposed to believe you know better than they do?
Hans Blaster said:
How 'bout we split the difference and just call him "Secretary Pete"? Will that work?
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I don't care what you do -

He's the Secretary of War -
 
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Always in His Presence said:
You should let the government know they made a mistake


Secretary of War HON Pete Hegseth​

The Honorable Pete Hegseth is the secretary of war. He was sworn in on Jan. 25, 2025, as the 29th secretary of defense before the department's name was changed on Sept. 5, 2025.

Truth is such an aggravating thing at times
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Like I said, I don't care how he wants it identify, that's his personal kink. He can call himself the Secretary of Signal Chat for all I care. It is the Defense Department no matter what signs augmentation he hangs up. I support your right to use his chosen pronouns, but just because you change your name to Kaitlyn Secretary of War, that doesn't change what the position is.
 
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Aryeh Jay said:
His title is Secretary of Defense, that is the position he was appointed to. I don't care what he wants to identity as. I thought all that DEI identity stuff was gone.
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You can't have Defense without War. Everybody's saying that!
 
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NxNW said:
Not happening. That's fake footage.
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More attempts from the liberal left to discredit the accomplishments of President Trump. This picture was taken six minutes ago.

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NxNW said:
Not happening. That's fake footage.
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Not the same picture - but nice try - can't let anything good come from the President! Keep going, it's why the Democratic Party has an approval rating at it's lowest in history.
 
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Always in His Presence said:
Not the same picture - but nice try - can't let anything good come from the President! Keep going, it's why the Democratic Party has an approval rating at it's lowest in history.
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While Trump's approval is at it's lowest as well so how is that a flex and why do you keep bringing it up as if it means something substantial?
 
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rambot said:
While Trump's approval is at it's lowest as well so how is that a flex and why do you keep bringing it up as if it means something substantial?
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Trump's is higher than the Democratic Party. Why do you keep bringing up his low approval rating as if it counters the Democrats low numbers?
 
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thehill.com

2 GOP senators caution Hegseth on punishing Kelly

Two high-profile Republican senators warned Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth on Monday against reducing Sen. Mark Kelly’s (D-Ariz.) military rank or pension as punishment for filming a video with …
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rambot said:
I think the most interesting thing about all these Republican name changing things is, honestly, it feels a lot like the trans language debate and I am 100% sure that they don' see the irony of that.
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Aryeh Jay said:
Like I said, I don't care how he wants it identify, that's his personal kink. He can call himself the Secretary of Signal Chat for all I care. It is the Defense Department no matter what signs augmentation he hangs up. I support your right to use his chosen pronouns, but just because you change your name to Kaitlyn Secretary of War, that doesn't change what the position is.
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You're active, so you may know this, but I'll bet everything that has to do with money or jail time still says "Defense."
 
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RDKirk said:
You're active, so you may know this, but I'll bet everything that has to do with money or jail time still says "Defense."
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Yes, as well as letterhead.
 
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Always in His Presence said:
They are celebrating world wide - well maybe not in Germany cause they aren't there..

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Nice try, but that photo's from August, 2024.

Photo caption:
Supporters of President Nicolas Maduro gather for a government rally in Caracas, Venezuela, Saturday, Aug. 3, 2024. (AP Photo/Matias Delacroix)

-- A2SG, hey, at least it ain't AI this time.....
 
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Always in His Presence said:
They are celebrating world wide - well maybe not in Germany cause they aren't there..

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oh... look!
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Hmm... I wonder if there's a reason why you just posted the picture and not the source of it...
 
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Hmm... I wonder if there's a reason why you just posted the picture and not the source of it...
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Here's another...

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Easy to find, I must say. Just Google 'Happy Venezuelans'.
 
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RDKirk said:
He stated a process, and you don't know that process. I just told you the process.

Hegseth only has authority over administrative changes. Unless Kelly's retirement was an administrative error from the beginning, it can't be changed administratively as a punitive measure. Nowhere in Executive Branch processes is that permitted.

The only way to affect Kelly's retirement status (either pay or rank) punitively is by court-martial. A federal judge (which includes military courts) must order it.
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Edit: Well, shucks, I was talking about legal processes.

If Hegseth does things illegally, the ball is loose. That "illegal orders" problem will show up in the Pentagon staff offices before it shows up on the battlefield.
 
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