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Breaking: Venezuela attacked by U.S. Update: Maduro and wife captured.
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Could be the intent was not to share. In the end, the CIA Director did brief top lawmakers.
Trump and Rubio saw no need to provide any briefing...and have not done so to date. Ironically, both the Washington Post and the New York Times learned of the operation prior to its execution....and agreed to sit on the story in the interest of protecting the operation. It seems Trump better examine his own house for leaks.
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Once upon a time, perhaps. But Trump is talking about the money coming out of Venezuelan ground that will go to US companies. If we were buying the oil, the money would go to the owner.
Not to mention the tanker that was seized.
When asked what would happen to the oil aboard the tanker, Trump said, "Well, we keep it, I guess."
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most of the world is seeing this as a prelude to him attacking greenland/Canada/mexico/cuba and so on. if he's unhinged enough to attack one country how about others, especially Canada who who he's threatened for a year to be the 51st state, he's threatened already and complained about not giving him water he wanted, recently has been cutting off aluminum/cars/pot ash, things the US and US economy requires and looking to other countries. Kinda like how Venezuala was looking towards other countries for oil. Even if he has no plans too, the world now sees trump and the US as a threat to other countries.
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The oil in the tankers he did say that he will keep. The actual oil fields is a different story. For now what we know is that Russia and China probably won’t get the contracts and preferential treatment they were getting.
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I just do not trust anything Trump does. To him it is all business transaction. Not a lot of moral or legal discernment.
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Trump's terrorist attack is all about robbing Venezuela of their oil. China and Russia have right to make a living. They can be dangerous combo, they want too. But how does this help with kids getting food in America. Programs for the poor. Better health care in America.
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Correction they didn’t have to attack THIS country. Of course Maduro was in bed with them anyway.
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Nope legally an extradition does not require the government of that country to carry it out.
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The host country must agree to it.
"Extraordinary rendition," however, is a rendition that is extralegal, i.e. outside the law (see: kidnapping).
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Psst..."extradition" is not a shortening of "extraordinary rendition."
Although this would be correctly termed an "extraterritorial abduction," as no third country was involved.
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...from the DOJ's website:
Generally under U. S. law (18 U.S.C. § 3184), extradition may be granted only pursuant to a treaty. However, some countries grant extradition without a treaty, and of those that do, most require an offer of reciprocity. Further, 18 U.S.C. 3181 and 3184 permit the United States to extradite, without regard to the existence of a treaty, persons (other than citizens, nationals or permanent residents of the United States), who have committed crimes of violence against nationals of the United States in foreign countries.
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..and Dept of State (archived) as of 2001:
VENEZUELA
The current extradition treaty between the United States and Venezuela was signed in 1922. The treaty contains a limited list of extraditable offenses, and narcotics trafficking is not one of the listed offenses. Venezuela is a party to the 1988 UN Drug Convention, and by the terms of the Convention narcotics trafficking and related money laundering are deemed extraditable under the bilateral extradition treaty. Venezuela's 1999 Constitution expressly prohibits the extradition of Venezuelan nationals. Previously, Venezuela had only a statutory bar to the extradition of nationals. Despite this obstacle, Venezuela has demonstrated good faith in extraditing non-Venezuelans to the United States. Since the last report, Venezuela has extradited one non-national to the United States.
9-15.100 - General Principles Related to Obtaining Fugitives from Abroad
International extradition is the formal process by which a person found in one country is surrendered to another country for trial or punishment. The process is regulated by treaty and conducted between the Federal Government of the United States and the government of a foreign country. It differs considerably from interstate rendition, commonly referred to as interstate extradition, mandated by the Constitution, Art. 4, Sec. 2.Generally under U. S. law (18 U.S.C. § 3184), extradition may be granted only pursuant to a treaty. However, some countries grant extradition without a treaty, and of those that do, most require an offer of reciprocity. Further, 18 U.S.C. 3181 and 3184 permit the United States to extradite, without regard to the existence of a treaty, persons (other than citizens, nationals or permanent residents of the United States), who have committed crimes of violence against nationals of the United States in foreign countries.
9-15.000 - International Extradition And Related Matters
..and Dept of State (archived) as of 2001:
VENEZUELA
The current extradition treaty between the United States and Venezuela was signed in 1922. The treaty contains a limited list of extraditable offenses, and narcotics trafficking is not one of the listed offenses. Venezuela is a party to the 1988 UN Drug Convention, and by the terms of the Convention narcotics trafficking and related money laundering are deemed extraditable under the bilateral extradition treaty. Venezuela's 1999 Constitution expressly prohibits the extradition of Venezuelan nationals. Previously, Venezuela had only a statutory bar to the extradition of nationals. Despite this obstacle, Venezuela has demonstrated good faith in extraditing non-Venezuelans to the United States. Since the last report, Venezuela has extradited one non-national to the United States.
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