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Tommy Lee Jones’ daughter Victoria found dead at San Francisco hotel on New Year’s Day

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Victoria Jones, the daughter of famed actor Tommy Lee Jones, was found dead at a California hotel early New Year’s Day, according to reports. She was 34.

Police arrived at the Fairmont San Francisco hotel around 3:14 a.m. Thursday after a report of a medical emergency, the San Francisco Police Department told The Post.
 

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So sad to hear! She was so young.

Not that it's ever a good time but I feel it becomes so much harder on families when they lose someone so close to these major holidays. New Year's is likely ruined for this family for many many years to come.
 
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Victoria Jones, the daughter of famed actor Tommy Lee Jones, was found dead at a California hotel early New Year’s Day, according to reports. She was 34.

Police arrived at the Fairmont San Francisco hotel around 3:14 a.m. Thursday after a report of a medical emergency, the San Francisco Police Department told The Post.
How sad. May she rest in peace.
 
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So sad to hear! She was so young.

Not that it's ever a good time but I feel it becomes so much harder on families when they lose someone so close to these major holidays. New Year's is likely ruined for this family for many many years to come.
They mentioned they got a 911 call at the hotel on New Years (presumably there was a party going on).

Wondering if it's a case of some over-indulgence or mixing of indulgences.

I remember back in college at a frat NYE party (I wasn't in the frat, just invited to the party) where they had to call 911 because someone had way too much.
 
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They mentioned they got a 911 call at the hotel on New Years (presumably there was a party going on).

Wondering if it's a case of some over-indulgence or mixing of indulgences.

I remember back in college at a frat NYE party (I wasn't in the frat, just invited to the party) where they had to call 911 because someone had way too much.
Definitely a possibility. I didn't know about her until just hearing about this now but it wouldn't surprise me if drugs were involved at a big time Hollywood celeb kid's NYE party.
 
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Victoria Jones, the daughter of famed actor Tommy Lee Jones, was found dead at a California hotel early New Year’s Day, according to reports. She was 34.

Police arrived at the Fairmont San Francisco hotel around 3:14 a.m. Thursday after a report of a medical emergency, the San Francisco Police Department told The Post.
Why is this particularly worthy of our attention, among all the other untimely deaths in the same period?

Nothing against it. Just wondering.
 
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Why is this particularly worthy of our attention, among all the other untimely deaths in the same period?

Nothing against it. Just wondering.
I'm reading now that it was a suspected overdose (though I don't know if that's been officially confirmed)

It comes on the heels of Rob Reiner's son killing his father (his son also had a known drug problem)


Perhaps it's just that these things make into the news more when it involves celebs, but it seems as if there are certain patterns and catalysts that exist in that environment.

So it is possible that it's a "visibility bias"

While there's not extensive research on it with regards to all substances, there's some non-peer reviewed write-ups that suggest that young adults who grow up in famous families are three times more likely to end up abusing alcohol.

And per Psychology Today, they speculate that a potential link could possibly be attributed to the one or more of the following factors
  • Early exposure and access - Greater proximity to environments where substances are likely to be present, plus financial means to obtain them.
  • Pressure and scrutiny - Growing up in the public eye can create unique stressors, identity challenges, and pressure to live up to expectations.
  • Parental availability - Demanding careers may sometimes limit parental presence during critical developmental periods.
  • Social circles - Possible exposure to peer groups where substance use is more normalized.

And while they didn't discuss this particular aspect, I've always wondered if the removal of the "afraid to have to go to the bad neighborhood to get it" organic barrier plays a part as well.

For example: a person may say "there's no way I'd be caught dead going to that part of town to try Drug XYZ", but if that drug happens to be available and getting passed around at a swanky party in a comfortable/"safe" environment like a mansion or a $2,000/night hotel suite...hmmmm, maybe I'll give it a try"

For instance, I can't tell you that I've ever even been exposed to someone doing heroin in-person. I know of people who've done it, and obviously we've seen pics and videos of people engaging in open-air usage in certain bad neighborhoods that I wouldn't step foot in after dark. But for the majority of us, I would venture a guess and say that most of us have never been exposed to hard drug use in a "cushy" "comfortable" environment (which would make the prospect of use seem less threatening and more approachable for some people)
 
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For instance, I can't tell you that I've ever even been exposed to someone doing heroin in-person. I know of people who've done it, and obviously we've seen pics and videos of people engaging in open-air usage in certain bad neighborhoods that I wouldn't step foot in after dark. But for the majority of us, I would venture a guess and say that most of us have never been exposed to hard drug use in a "cushy" "comfortable" environment (which would make the prospect of use seem less threatening and more approachable for some people)
Seems like the fame environment submits kids to pressures they shouldnt have to be exposed to and arent prepared for.

Ive never seen someone do heroin in front of me. But apparently some were doing it where I lived once. I even innocently lent my suite-mate (private rooms that shared a bathroom) money, which I later found out was used to buy it. Later she wrote an online memoir about coming out the other side of a long addiction - with some permanent scars. This was well before fentanyl started contaminating the product. I was so innocent. Never suspected a thing. And I never made a habit of drugs myself. Not from admirable restraint; just simply wasnt that interested - tho I did have interesting times on a certain high intensity cycledelic a few times.

Mainly I think theres ways to do life that are far more rewarding than drugs, tho certain drugs can help people who find themselves deeply stuck.
 
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Seems like the fame environment submits kids to pressures they shouldnt have to be exposed to and arent prepared for.

Ive never seen someone do heroin in front of me. But apparently some were doing it where I lived once. I even innocently lent my suite-mate (private rooms that shared a bathroom) money, which I later found out was used to buy it. Later she wrote an online memoir about coming out the other side of a long addiction - with some permanent scars. This was well before fentanyl started contaminating the product. I was so innocent. Never suspected a thing. And I never made a habit of drugs myself. Not from admirable restraint; just simply wasnt that interested - tho I did have interesting times on a certain high intensity cycledelic a few times.

Mainly I think theres ways to do life that are far more rewarding than drugs, tho certain drugs can help people who find themselves deeply stuck.
LSD and psilocybin were showing great promise as a mental health therapy prior to the whole "war on drugs" derailing testing.
 
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