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It's a religious story. Science doesn't concern itself with such things.
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There is only 2 options, Life formed because of God, or by random chance from non-living matter
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I'd suggest that the majority of Christians in this forum are most definitely not literalists. Are they not Christians because they use terms like allegory and metaphor to explain the differences between a literal reading of the bible and the evidence for how life evolved (according to the will of God)?
And a quick question: have you ever worked on the sabbath?
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I once had a job where I went to work before sundown on Friday evening and worked past sunrise on Saturday morning for many weeks in a row.
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Exodus 31:14
'Whoever does any work on the Sabbath day is to be put to death...'
I can't imagine anyone picking and choosing what to take literally from the OT. So...you might be in trouble, Hans.
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Oh noze.
Oh, wait, I lived in a secular republic that doesn't use Mosaic law.
For good measure I also violated the Adventist Saturday sabbath by working sundown to sunrise on Saturday night, the orthodox/western Sunday sabbath by working the same hours on Sunday night, and the black sabbath by not listening to heavy metal.
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That statement comes from accepting the Bible, especially Genesis, as 100% literal indread of allegorical and poetic.
No evidence for it st all.
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Bah, we have a soul anyway, that alone destroys evolution.
It clearly means God put in in there like he wanted how he wanted.
It clearly means God put in in there like he wanted how he wanted.
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I don't believe that, because the soul has our intelligence and emotions.
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And you're free to do so, but it's our brains that have our intelligence and emotions, not our souls.
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There is no required orthodox/western Sunday sabbath for mainstream churches. In fact we have several days a week that we can go to services.
As for Black Sabbath…. You are on your own.
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That "several days" things might work for you, but I was in the One True Church (tm). Sunday mass was a obligation.
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Not any more even though is strongly suggested. In my church is also suggested but has never been required.
ETA: also the CC has other days like Saturday and weekly services these days.
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The Saturday "Vigil" mass is the acceptable substitute and has been for a long time. (THat's the one I would go to before my 10-hour shift, rather than morning mass afterward.) Other days of the week don't meet the Sunday obligation.
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One, if you follow the majority on anything I feel for you.
Two, metaphors are typically symbols of real things (Biblically speaking, non-conclusive otherwise). I read more literal than metaphorical generally to boot. One cannot interpret a letter so well without intimate knowledge and connection to the author. I was simply making a distinction of obvious narrative conflicts. Mixing science with historical accounts is trying to figure out history with the periodic table. Also, as I mentioned, it was for fun and curiosity of whether the answer would be typical. I have, and will not have, any dog in this particular fight. I don't get stuck on merry-go-rounds for the sake of ego. I care nothing if people want to believe things that intrinsically oppose one another.
Three, relevance. Tis a tangent. Using theological interpretations of law in regard to this? I'll let you speculate if you so wish.
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Well, as I mentioned initially, everyone does indeed have an opinion. Evidence is subject to that by determinations of those opinions.
Nothing is one hundred percent literal. That is absurdity. The "shot heard around the world" in literal historical accounts of American history, for example. Let's hope no one is taking that literally. That would make someone look very unwise to those privy.
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But opinions fall flat in the face of actual evidence. Like the fact that the Earth is magnitudes older than what any timeline in the Bible suggests it is.
And yes, there are people who do take the Biblical account as 100% literal. They have a name: Biblical Literalists, which creates a nice crossover with Biblical Creationists on a venn diagram to almost be a full circle. Those people exist. Especially on this forum.
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Evidence has yet to be presented for the claims of souls. And even if a soul was a real thing it doesn't mean your god is real.
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Like I said, evidence is subject to opinions. People accept and/or deny evidence on a daily basis. I'm not jumping into that mud pit of establishing what is and is not evidence. You feel free to believe whatever evidence suits you.
I did not say those people do not exist. I said that historical accounts are not absolute in terms of being literal. I obviously am in disagreement with those people based on my statements and given example.
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I don't 'believe' evidence. I accept evidence. No belief needed.
But Biblical Literalism and Biblical Creationism show that there are people who accept the Biblical account of creation as 100% literal. Doesn't matter if you disagree with it, it is a fact that these people exist. Which comes into play on this thread when the OP posts such a loaded question as they did.
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