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Question on Giants, Knowledge, and Post-Flood Corruption (Not a Doctrine)

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I want to be clear up front: I’m not proposing a new doctrine or asserting certainty—just asking a question that’s been on my mind.
Most Christian discussions about giants or corruption after the flood focus on three explanations: surviving bloodlines, renewed angelic transgression, or symbolic language. Those discussions are valuable, but I wonder if they unintentionally limit the conversation.

Ancient Jewish thought often treated knowledge itself as morally powerful—capable of shaping societies for good or evil. Second Temple texts describe spiritual beings not only as tempters, but as teachers of practices that led to violence and domination.

So here’s the question I’m exploring: could post-Flood corruption have been understood as re-entering the world through transmitted knowledge rather than renewed biology? I’m not saying this is what happened or that Scripture explicitly teaches it. I’m simply asking whether the ancient worldview allowed more explanatory space than we often acknowledge.

As Deuteronomy reminds us, “the secret things belong to the Lord.” My goal isn’t to solve a mystery God left open, but to avoid closing possibilities too quickly.
I welcome thoughtful responses and corrections.
 
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Samaarons said:
I want to be clear up front: I’m not proposing a new doctrine or asserting certainty—just asking a question that’s been on my mind.
Most Christian discussions about giants or corruption after the flood focus on three explanations: surviving bloodlines, renewed angelic transgression, or symbolic language. Those discussions are valuable, but I wonder if they unintentionally limit the conversation.

Ancient Jewish thought often treated knowledge itself as morally powerful—capable of shaping societies for good or evil. Second Temple texts describe spiritual beings not only as tempters, but as teachers of practices that led to violence and domination.

So here’s the question I’m exploring: could post-Flood corruption have been understood as re-entering the world through transmitted knowledge rather than renewed biology? I’m not saying this is what happened or that Scripture explicitly teaches it. I’m simply asking whether the ancient worldview allowed more explanatory space than we often acknowledge.

As Deuteronomy reminds us, “the secret things belong to the Lord.” My goal isn’t to solve a mystery God left open, but to avoid closing possibilities too quickly.
I welcome thoughtful responses and corrections.
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The Bible,( Genesis 6:4 ), says the giants, called Nephilim, were on the earth before the Flood, "and also afterward." This phrase confirms that the extreme wickedness and unique kind of corruption that the Nephilim represented did not completely disappear with the Flood. It means that the post-Flood world didn't just have regular sin; it also had a continuation of that powerful, ancient evil. This shows that sin continued not only because people are naturally sinful, but also because this original, great wickedness managed to resurface. How it surfaced could be by some surviving, through the genetics of Noah's Daughter in Law's or Ham's sin.
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Maria Billingsley said:
The Bible,( Genesis 6:4 ), says the giants, called Nephilim, were on the earth before the Flood, "and also afterward." This phrase confirms that the extreme wickedness and unique kind of corruption that the Nephilim represented did not completely disappear with the Flood. It means that the post-Flood world didn't just have regular sin; it also had a continuation of that powerful, ancient evil. This shows that sin continued not only because people are naturally sinful, but also because this original, great wickedness managed to resurface. How it surfaced could be by some surviving, through the genetics of Noah's Daughter in Law's or Ham's sin.
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I agree with you on an important point: the phrase “and also afterward” in Genesis 6:4 shows that evil did not simply reset after the Flood. The world after the Flood still struggled with deep corruption, not just everyday sin.

Where I’m being careful is how we understand that continuation.

You mentioned possibilities like genetic survival through Noah’s family or Ham’s sin. Those ideas have been discussed for a long time, and I understand why people suggest them. My question isn’t meant to rule those out or replace them.

I’m simply asking whether ancient Jewish readers might also have imagined another way corruption could return—through ideas, practices, and knowledge being passed on, not just through bloodlines. In ancient thought, knowledge itself could be dangerous. What people learned, copied, and practiced could shape whole societies for good or for evil.

So when I ask this question, I’m not saying, “This is what definitely happened.” I’m asking, “Did ancient people allow for more than one way evil could resurface?” Genetics may be one possibility. Transmitted knowledge may be another. Symbolic language may be another.

I’m not trying to solve what God left hidden—only to avoid narrowing the conversation too quickly when Scripture itself leaves room for reflection.

Thank you again for engaging so thoughtfully. Blessings to you as well.
 
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I’m simply asking whether ancient Jewish readers might also have imagined another way corruption could return
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Corruption returns through the flesh. This is a consistent pattern of reality frequently mentioned in scripture. Flesh was not eliminated just the status quo at that time that overwhelmed righteousness.
 
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