1 Corinthians 6 and sex sin and well being and salvation, peace...?

GoldenKingGaze · Tuesday at 8:37 AM

1 Corinthians 6 brings up the history of the body as God's temple, of His Spirit and sex sin such as with prostitutes and that as Christians born again, we are one spirit with God. That we must not be one with prostitutes. One flesh and maybe one soul, will... and one spirit, welded together. There is the idea that the soul and the spirit can be taken outside of space and time in God and be healed, but the body has an eternal history and must be atoned for later. Some believe God as almighty can change even the history of our bodies.

There is atoning and cleaning power in Christ's sacred blood.

If I had a spouse who committed adultery in our bed with a prostitute, I would not again use the bed. And she would be defiled, and I might long to have her back, but find it hard to regain cleanness and peace with her. looking at her spirit, will, emotions, mind and he body, flesh, protein, blood, waters... It is a bit like someone used her as a toilet. In this life I think her spirit and soul matter more that her physical body.

This makes me see why adultery often leads to divorce.

What do other Christians think?

Richard T · Tuesday at 5:08 PM

While a Christian is under no obligation to accept an adulterous spouse, I do think that God is big enough to bring healing to those couples where there is repentance. The idea of he who is forgiven much loves much could even apply. No we do not sin so that grace can abound, but still there could be a path going forward. I once heard a testimony of a woman whose husband ran off. They divorced and she knew she could be free from him. But with help and guidance from God, she prayed, waited several years, and the man not only came back around but was born again and realy committed to moving forward. Perhaps a non-Christian spouse though is easier to explain than a Christian one who commits such sin?

In looking this topic up I found the related link that can help us understand Paul's perspective on the body. It is the second reply in the thread.

what does “your body” and “your spirit” mean in 1 Corinthians 6:20?

1 Corinthians 6:20: [YLT] for ye were bought with a price; glorify, then, God in your body and in your spirit, which are God's. [TR] ἠγοράσθητε γὰρ τιμῆς· δοξάσατε δὴ τὸν θεὸν ἐν τῷ σώματι ὑμῶν κα...

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Hentenza · Tuesday at 5:14 PM

GoldenKingGaze said:
If I had a spouse who committed adultery in our bed with a prostitute, I would not again use the bed. And she would be defiled, and I might long to have her back, but find it hard to regain cleanness and peace with her. looking at her spirit, will, emotions, mind and he body, flesh, protein, blood, waters... It is a bit like someone used her as a toilet. In this life I think her spirit and soul matter more that her physical body.

What if she repents, confesses her sin, and seeks forgiveness? Would you forgive her?

GoldenKingGaze · Wednesday at 5:16 AM

Hentenza said:
What if she repents, confesses her sin, and seeks forgiveness? Would you forgive her?

It is a big issue, with many factors that vary from couple to couple with some commonalities, like, "what if he was better?", "What if she has fallen pregnant?". Forgiveness is essential regardless of repentance or not. If she wants forgiveness and repents genuinely and spiritually that does not mean there is happiness in recovering the marriage. Sex may be depressing, or takes time like years to heal. King David's marriages became humiliation in public when Absalom boasted his little finger was thicker than his father's loins and went ahead on the roof and committed adultery. On regaining his wives David never slept with them again. So abstinence, perhaps as a matter of honour.

Such a wife is like a prodigal son. He has lost his estate and the remainder is redivided between him and his brother. The marriage has lost honour. Only nice people lie or consider it otherwise. Someone else has the honour of fathering a child with her, big matter of honour.

Jesus' sacred blood can end her union and restore honour. She can return. But she may do it again.

Maybe better if she marries the other man?

If she is a believer in Jesus and repents and properly seeks sanctification and restoration, the latter may take years, and if I can be happy with her and being romantic with her, and I if I loved her, I'd take her back. Forgive but remember, no one can somehow forget and trust... If she was with child, I would not want to raise it.

Cleaning the body, water flush, covering the fouled history with atoning, blood of Jesus, restoring destroyed honour, ending spirit and soul ties in repentance and sanctification in the blood and Holy Spirit, deliverance from demons, privacy, fullness of love, not just this idea that Jesus to follow, is all love and mercy and compassion... repentance from dishonour and injustice... this is revival or great growth, most Christian women don't do it. I think that they usually don't bear the fruit of the Spirit and some of them, are not born again.

In practice, looking at the same things in a home invasion, honour is a matter of life and death importance, true?

What is in the history of her body become part of mine. A loss. Hard to forgive, but possible. Is it worth it?

Hentenza · Wednesday at 6:34 AM

GoldenKingGaze said:
It is a big issue, with many factors that vary from couple to couple with some commonalities, like, "what if he was better?", "What if she has fallen pregnant?". Forgiveness is essential regardless of repentance or not. If she wants forgiveness and repents genuinely and spiritually that does not mean there is happiness in recovering the marriage. Sex may be depressing, or takes time like years to heal. King David's marriages became humiliation in public when Absalom boasted his little finger was thicker than his father's loins and went ahead on the roof and committed adultery. On regaining his wives David never slept with them again. So abstinence, perhaps as a matter of honour.

Such a wife is like a prodigal son. He has lost his estate and the remainder is redivided between him and his brother. The marriage has lost honour. Only nice people lie or consider it otherwise. Someone else has the honour of fathering a child with her, big matter of honour.

Jesus' sacred blood can end her union and restore honour. She can return. But she may do it again.

Maybe better if she marries the other man?

If she is a believer in Jesus and repents and properly seeks sanctification and restoration, the latter may take years, and if I can be happy with her and being romantic with her, and I if I loved her, I'd take her back. Forgive but remember, no one can somehow forget and trust... If she was with child, I would not want to raise it.

Cleaning the body, water flush, covering the fouled history with atoning, blood of Jesus, restoring destroyed honour, ending spirit and soul ties in repentance and sanctification in the blood and Holy Spirit, deliverance from demons, privacy, fullness of love, not just this idea that Jesus to follow, is all love and mercy and compassion... repentance from dishonour and injustice... this is revival or great growth, most Christian women don't do it. I think that they usually don't bear the fruit of the Spirit and some of them, are not born again.

In practice, looking at the same things in a home invasion, honour is a matter of life and death importance, true?

What is in the history of her body become part of mine. A loss. Hard to forgive, but possible. Is it worth it?

God would forgive her.

“Now the scribes and the Pharisees *brought a woman caught in the act of adultery, and after placing her in the center of the courtyard, they *said to Him, “Teacher, this woman has been caught in the very act of committing adultery. Now in the Law, Moses commanded us to stone such women; what then do You say?” Now they were saying this to test Him, so that they might have grounds for accusing Him. But Jesus stooped down and with His finger wrote on the ground. When they persisted in asking Him, He straightened up and said to them, “He who is without sin among you, let him be the first to throw a stone at her.” And again He stooped down and wrote on the ground. Now when they heard this, they began leaving, one by one, beginning with the older ones, and He was left alone, and the woman where she was, in the center of the courtyard. And straightening up, Jesus said to her, “Woman, where are they? Did no one condemn you?” She said, “No one, Lord.” And Jesus said, “I do not condemn you, either. Go. From now on do not sin any longer.”]]”
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“If we confess our sins, He is faithful and righteous, so that He will forgive us our sins and cleanse us from all unrighteousness.”
‭‭1 John‬ ‭1‬:‭9‬ ‭NASB2020‬‬

1 John 1:9 (NASB2020) - If we confess our sins, He is faith | YouVersion

If we confess our sins, He is faithful and righteous, so that He will forgive us our sins and cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

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GoldenKingGaze · Wednesday at 9:32 AM

Hentenza said:
God would forgive her.

“Now the scribes and the Pharisees *brought a woman caught in the act of adultery, and after placing her in the center of the courtyard, they *said to Him, “Teacher, this woman has been caught in the very act of committing adultery. Now in the Law, Moses commanded us to stone such women; what then do You say?” Now they were saying this to test Him, so that they might have grounds for accusing Him. But Jesus stooped down and with His finger wrote on the ground. When they persisted in asking Him, He straightened up and said to them, “He who is without sin among you, let him be the first to throw a stone at her.” And again He stooped down and wrote on the ground. Now when they heard this, they began leaving, one by one, beginning with the older ones, and He was left alone, and the woman where she was, in the center of the courtyard. And straightening up, Jesus said to her, “Woman, where are they? Did no one condemn you?” She said, “No one, Lord.” And Jesus said, “I do not condemn you, either. Go. From now on do not sin any longer.”]]”
‭‭John‬ ‭8‬:‭3‬-‭11‬ ‭NASB2020‬‬

John 8:3-11 (NASB2020) - Now the scribes and the Pharisees * | YouVersion

Now the scribes and the Pharisees *brought a woman caught in the act of adultery, and after placing her in the center of the courtyard, they *said to Him, “Teacher, this woman has been caught in the v

bible.com

“If we confess our sins, He is faithful and righteous, so that He will forgive us our sins and cleanse us from all unrighteousness.”
‭‭1 John‬ ‭1‬:‭9‬ ‭NASB2020‬‬

1 John 1:9 (NASB2020) - If we confess our sins, He is faith | YouVersion

If we confess our sins, He is faithful and righteous, so that He will forgive us our sins and cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

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Yes I have read those verses many times.

I have said, forgiveness is an essential whether the wrong is regretted or not.

God hates divorce, Malachi 2:16

Mark 10:4 Moses permitted a written dismissal, divorce. Jesus did not like that. But if there is unfaithfulness, then it is different, Matthew 19:9.

Jesus died on the cross and rose again to make well and good of adulterers, and prostitutes, sinners and tax collectors.

The Bible as you quote 1 John 1:9 says God cleanses us, but immediately, all unclean spirits have left, no illness, ...? If the sin is so much as an adultery, confessing it only will not do, there must be repentance. It is not like a slander or theft. If a sin is fornication then confessing is not enough, there needs to be repentance and probably counseling.

Sometimes we forgive people, but part company from them.

Part of my OP is about 1 Corinthians 6 and the history of the body compared to history of the soul and human spirit.

How many people discern to marry former and repentant prostitutes?

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1 Corinthians 6 and sex sin and well being and salvation, peace...?

GoldenKingGaze

Prevent Slavery, support the persecuted.

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Richard T

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what does “your body” and “your spirit” mean in 1 Corinthians 6:20?

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Hentenza

I will fear no evil for You are with me

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Prevent Slavery, support the persecuted.

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I will fear no evil for You are with me

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Prevent Slavery, support the persecuted.

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