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No room at the inn; Go find asylum somewhere else; Trump seeks to cancel thousands of asylum cases; applicants can be deported to third countries

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The Trump administration has mounted a nationwide campaign to void the asylum claims of thousands of immigrants with active cases in immigration court by arguing that they can be deported to countries that are not their own, according to internal government data obtained by CBS News.

The effort appears to have intensified in recent weeks, targeting asylum-seekers with pending cases in immigration courts in Atlanta, New York, Miami, Los Angeles, San Francisco, Texas and elsewhere across the U.S., multiple immigration lawyers and certified legal representatives told CBS News.

As part of the effort, ICE attorneys have asked immigration judges to order asylum-seekers deported to third countries like Guatemala, Honduras, Ecuador and Uganda, according to court documents reviewed by CBS News and interviews with immigration lawyers.

Previously undisclosed internal government data obtained by CBS News indicates that, as of early December, ICE attorneys had filed more than 8,000 motions in immigration court to toss out asylum claims by citing deportation agreements with third countries.

In late October, the Board of Immigration Appeals, which reviews decisions by immigration courts, issued a ruling that lawyers believe will turbocharge efforts by the government to use "safe third country" agreements to cancel asylum cases. That order directed immigration judges to decide the motions by ICE to send immigrants to third-party countries before reviewing their asylum applications.

"I think that this is in line with this administration's attempt to completely eviscerate the availability of asylum and other forms of protection in this country," said Blaine Bookey, legal director for San Francisco's Center for Gender and Refugee Studies, one of the groups litigating the case. "This is, in their view, an easy way to cut off a case at the knees."

It just doesn't matter if your case is valid or not. Go be a refugee somewhere else.

 
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No room at the inn? Really? Political drama much?

Perhaps a better comparison would be Herod's murderous rampage and the Holy Family having to flee and find asylum in Egypt.
 
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No room at the inn? Really? Political drama much?
I thought that was pretty mild.

I could have gone with the refugees on the St. Louis being turned away from the United States.

Later research tracing each passenger has determined that 255 (41.1%) of those who returned to continental Europe were murdered during the Holocaust.


Now there's some drama you won't hear about in the Trumpsonian Museum of American History.
 
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Both my parents spent seven months in an internment camp in a third country before being allowed to come into the US under asylum - Was FDR a racist?
It's always race race race with you guys.

I'm saying FDR was wrong to turn away a boatload of refugees from Nazi Germany to be offloaded in another country, where many were murdered. And the Trump Administration is wrong now with these actions.
 
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It's always race race race with you guys.

LOL that made me laugh. The left screams race since 2015 - still does, as evidenced by a number of active and over 100 threads -

Bring up the error - and they ..... well it's evident

Perhaps that is why 18% is the best that can be done?
 
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Perhaps a better comparison would be Herod's murderous rampage and the Holy Family having to flee and find asylum in Egypt.
Or perhaps what Trump is doing has nothing to do with Christianity.
 
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Both my parents spent seven months in an internment camp in a third country before being allowed to come into the US under asylum - Was FDR a racist?

That wasn't the issue quoted. The quoted issue was about canceling all asylum, not for one "race" or another.

Your parents got in and their asylum wasn't cancelled.
 
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The quoted issue was about canceling all asylum, not for one "race" or another.

Even the OP doesn't say all asylum - the Trump Admin does not either.

Our friend Grok says this:

These policies build on campaign promises for strict immigration enforcement but stop short of a universal denial mandate.

You would have a point if they said they are canceling asylums. They are not.

My parents waited seven months in a third country because the immigration department was overwhelmed

That is exactly what is happening now.
 
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I wish they would allow Christian’s in.

What makes you think we aren't? During the Obama and Bush years there was a janitor that collected the Bibles and rosaries immigrants weren't permitted to keep and photographed them. The people being detained in inhumane conditions now? The majority of them are also Christian.

 
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Even the OP doesn't say all asylum - the Trump Admin does not either.

It is clearly their trajectory, by rhetoric and action.

Our friend Grok says this:

These policies build on campaign promises for strict immigration enforcement but stop short of a universal denial mandate.

Grok is no one's friend and it keeps getting reprogrammed by its master because the answers are unliked.

You would have a point if they said they are canceling asylums. They are not.

Asylum is being cancelled for whole groups. Right now.

My parents waited seven months in a third country because the immigration department was overwhelmed

That is exactly what is happening now.
This isn't about being told to wait in a third country before entering the US. It is about stopping all new asylum and removing asylum status for people who are already here.
 
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It is clearly their trajectory, by rhetoric and action.
Not facts then

Asylum is being cancelled for whole groups. Right now.
No accurate. Delayed is not being cancelled

This isn't about being told to wait in a third country before entering the US.
From the op

As part of the effort, ICE attorneys have asked immigration judges to order asylum-seekers deported to third countries like Guatemala, Honduras, Ecuador and Uganda, according to court documents reviewed by CBS News and interviews with immigration lawyers.

This isn't about being told to wait in a third country before entering the US. It is about stopping all new asylum and removing asylum status for people who are already here.

Sure is -
 
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Not facts then


No accurate. Delayed is not being cancelled


From the op

As part of the effort, ICE attorneys have asked immigration judges to order asylum-seekers deported to third countries like Guatemala, Honduras, Ecuador and Uganda, according to court documents reviewed by CBS News and interviews with immigration lawyers.



Sure is -

You don't even have to read the article from the OP, just this line quoted in it:

"targeting asylum-seekers with pending cases in immigration court"

This is about people who are already inside the US. *DEPORTATION* is the removal of someone from a country, not the denial of their entry.
 
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You don't even have to read the article from the OP, just this line quoted in it:

"targeting asylum-seekers with pending cases in immigration court"

Yup the less information - the more believable it is.
 
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Yup the less information - the more believable it is.

What?

It should be clear, though you manage to muddy it anyway, from the info provided in the OP that this thread is about refugees who are ALREADY IN THE US being DEPORTED. It has nothing to do with stopping people from entering, or keeping them in other countries before they enter.
 
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