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PloverWing said:
Is there a way that Muslims could prove themselves to you without having to re-publish the offensive material
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Actually, you're right, the re-publishing would may be another offense. I think it's not to me to find a way for muslims to testify that allah is full of compassion, mercy and wisdom.

i'd just add, from the following of this affair, i'd rather suffer mercy, compassion, and wisdom from Samuel Paty, than from muslim allah.
For I assume Samuel Paty never inspired any beheading, but his
 
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peter2 said:
Hello Robban

Sorry, i don't know whether it's from my lack of understanding of english speaking or from something else, but i fail to see what you want to tell.
If you just want to distinguish extremists from pacific muslim worshippers, however, i obviously agree
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Well, you wrote in your OP that you asked the Muslim Allah, that if He existed, to kill you.

Pretty pointless asking something from someone you do not even believe exists.
 
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PloverWing said:
I wouldn't want to have to draw Jesus in the poses that Charlie Hebdo chose for Muhammad, just to demonstrate that I'm different from Timothy McVeigh. Nobody should die over offensive speech, but nobody should be compelled to repeat the offensive speech, either.
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The 4 evangelists have obviously disapproved all what they did to Jesus up to death, however silently.
Yet, i assume they considered a duty to write the Gospel.

Besides, i certainly would have disapproved an offending caricature of Jesus.
Yet, if a teacher teaching his pupils to keep cool had to be beheaded for showing them this document, i would also certainly have considered it a christian duty (to testify of this posthumous suffering of Jesus) to publish the document myself, in order to tell the whole story (even with illustrated caricatures).
it looks like i'm not worshipping the same person as muslims do
 
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PloverWing said:
I wouldn't want to have to draw Jesus in the poses that Charlie Hebdo chose for Muhammad, just to demonstrate that I'm different from Timothy McVeigh. Nobody should die over offensive speech, but nobody should be compelled to repeat the offensive speech, either.
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The 4 evangelists have obviously disapproved all what they did to Jesus up to death, however silently.
Yet, i assume they considered a duty to write the Gospel.

Besides, i certainly would have disapproved an offending caricature of Jesus.
Yet, if a teacher teaching his pupils to keep cool had to be beheaded for showing them this document, i would also certainly have considered it a christian duty (to testify of this posthumous suffering of Jesus) to publish the document myself, in order to tell the whole story (even with illustrated caricatures).
it looks like i'm not worshipping the same person as muslims do
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May i conclude, please, from the non response there's no reason for me to think i've mistaken ?

Or, may be my message was not clear enough (?)
Please, could someone at least just tell me whether it was clear or not..
 
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