“The two love commandments were indeed first spoken off during the OC but, as usual, they were not heeded and trampled over by legalism (sound familiar?) .
you keep saying it without addressing a single point in the conversation. Consider actually responding.
Especially since I have made this so easy for you, just the Matt 22 topic.
The difference between now and then is that now both of these commandments are the fulfillment of ALL of the law and the prophets.
Your creative writing noted.
The point made for you ten times so far is that these commandments had not changed at all and even the nonChristians were claiming that at the time of Moses they were already considered the foundation and fulfillment of the love called for in the Law of God.
Your obvious mistake is your "insert" of "now both of these" as if some change had happened ... a detail rejected by both Christ and the Jews that gave Him the very two commandments that they also knew to be the foundation and embodiment of the Law of Moses
“Upon these two commandments hang the whole Law and the Prophets.””
Matthew 22:40 NASB2020”
Mark 12:
28 One of the scribes came and heard them arguing, and recognizing that He had answered them well, asked Him, “What commandment is the foremost of all?” 29 Jesus answered, “The foremost is, ‘Hear, O Israel! The Lord our God is one Lord; 30 and you shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind, and with all your strength.’ 31 The second is this, ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ There is no other commandment greater than these.” 32 The s
cribe said to Him, “Right, Teacher; You have truly stated that He is One, and there is no one else besides Him; 33
and to love Him with all the heart and with all the understanding and with all the strength, and
to love one’s neighbor as himself,
is much more than all burnt offerings and sacrifices.” 34 When
Jesus saw that he had answered intelligently
Luke 10:25 And a lawyer stood up and put Him to the test, saying, “Teacher, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?” 26 And He said to him, “
What is written in the Law? How does it read to you?” 27 And he answered, “Y
ou shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your strength
even the NONChristian Jews got this truth as something that had been true for all of the OT.
Your argument is falling apart because of the details in the text. As we saw here
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Apparently I need to make this very very easy.
Fine , one step at a time
No. The law of Moses is fulfilled on the two commandments as Jesus fulfilled all of the law. You have no scripture to prove your hypothesis.
I am beginning to question if you are even reading what you post.
Jesus reminds us all of two commandments from the LAW of Moses in
Matt 22. They are:
Deut 6:5 "Love God with all your heart"
Lev 19:18 "Love your neighbor as yourself".
(Mark 12:28-31) Luke 12:28 -- The Jews fully agree that this is what happened at the time of Moses' writing. Those commands are foundational as Jesus said, and nothing in the least had changed in that regard, even the Jews agree. You should feel inclined to agree with them ... even nonChristian Jews got the point.
Those commands did not suddenly appear in the first century AD. They were already there at the time Moses wrote them. If this is confusing for you, just go read the texts I have as stated right there, repeatedly given to you. So now you do not need to act as if it is news.
That means whatever those laws fulfilled (in your words) would have been done in Leviticus 4000 years ago.
Moral law (hint: do not take God's name in vain, do not murder) like the TEN Commandments does not get deleted as soon as someone actually refrains from taking God's name in vain. That is not how moral law works. You keep responding as if this obvious detail is somehow confusing for you. That would be nonsensical since even you argue for at least nine out of the actual TEN Commandments of God.
Jesus said that ALL "OF SCRIPTURE" (the LAW AND THE PROPHETS) are fulfilled by those two commandments AND THE JEWS agreed!
Neither of them said "ALL of scripture IS DELETED by these two commandments".
Since this simply oft repeated detail keeps having to be posted to the same flawed suggestion... let's stop right here and find out why you find this part so difficult. There is just a couple details, this should be very easy.
If you can accept this instead of continually circling back so it has to be explained again... we can move to the next part.
I’ve been trying but you just ignore my posts.
I have yet to see you respond the details in Matt 22 and Deut 6:5 that don't fit your preferences.
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The two love commandments were indeed first spoken of during the OC
And quoted in the Gospels, in fact quoted by the Jews themselves as we see in "the details" listed above that you are so prone to completely ignore.
but, as usual, they were not heeded and trampled over
No doubt the antinomian tendency to ignore all parts of God's word that do not fit preference is a big problem in the Gospel examples.
Still EVEN the nonChristian Jews know that these two OT commandments are the bedrock foundation for ALL of scripture "The Law AND the prophets".
More "details" that you are sidestepping though repeatedly handed to you from scripture.
The difference between now and then is that now both of these commandments are the fulfillment of ALL of the law and the prophets.
Sadly you went off the rails again. Right out of the gate ignoring the DETAILS in the gospels.
So "the details" you are skimming past repeatedly... get handed right back to you until you address them.
two commandments from the LAW of Moses in
Matt 22. They are:
Deut 6:5 "Love God with all your heart"
Lev 19:18 "Love your neighbor as yourself".
(Mark 12:28-31) Luke 12:28 -- The Jews fully agree that this is what happened at the time of Moses' writing. Those commands are foundational as Jesus said, and nothing in the least had changed in that regard, even the Jews agree. You should feel inclined to agree with them ... even nonChristian Jews got the point.
Notice that it is THE JEWS (not Christ) in Mark 12 and Luke 12 that point out to Christ that these two commandments are the foundation of ALL the LAW and the scriptures. The very thing you wish to proclaim did not exist at that time. Pointed right at the texts that refute you claim your response repeatedly is to "ignore details in scripture". This allows you to then "circle back" and repeat yourself which begs to have the Bible answer to that very point, put to you again?
Why keep doing that??
“Upon these two commandments hang the whole Law and the Prophets.””
Matthew 22:40 NASB2020
Upon these two commandments hang the whole Law and the Prophets.”
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INDEED JUST as we saw the nonChristian Jews state in Luke 12 and Mark 12.
Mark 12:
28 One of the scribes came and heard them arguing, and recognizing that He had answered them well, asked Him, “What commandment is the foremost of all?” 29 Jesus answered, “The foremost is, ‘Hear, O Israel! The Lord our God is one Lord; 30 and you shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind, and with all your strength.’ 31 The second is this, ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ There is no other commandment greater than these.” 32 The s
cribe said to Him, “Right, Teacher; You have truly stated that He is One, and there is no one else besides Him; 33 and to love Him with all the heart and with all the understanding and with all the strength, and to love one’s neighbor as himself, is much more than all burnt offerings and sacrifices.” 34 When
Jesus saw that he had answered intelligently
Luke 10:25 And a lawyer stood up and put Him to the test, saying, “Teacher, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?” 26 And He said to him, “
What is written in the Law? How does it read to you?” 27 And he answered, “Y
ou shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your strength, and with all your mind;
and your neighbor as yourself.” 28 And He said to him, “You have answered correctly; do this and you will live.”
Here it is the nonChristian Jew that provide the full answer himself ... the very same thing that the nonChristian Jews agreed as being the correct answer in Matt 22.
Is that in the Torah or the books of the prophets? Of course not.
You seem to be horrifically confused just then.
What part of Leviticus and Deut are not in the Law and the prophets?
What part of "non Christian Jew" giving the very answer you refuse to allow them to give??
This is the logical result of Christ fulfillment of the law.
Sadly for your failed argument you were confronted by three examples of nonChristian Jews giving the right answer, and NONE of them accept that Jesus perfectly complied with the moral law of God in the TEN or in Deut 6:5 or in Lev 19:18, yet they all make your same stated that these two OT Commands of Moses are the foundation of "ALL the Law AND THE PROPHETS"... so then "all scripture"
It’s really simply Bob.
lol There goes the drama again. Deleted. Did anyone say that?
You seem to have difficulty holding focus. What part of this is the least bit confusing for you?
I think this explains why we can't get you to focus in context in even one single Bible text example.
You have free will of course, you can ignore all the scripture that you please in service to your preferences
