Trump signs executive order classifying fentanyl as a ‘weapon of mass destruction’

Factotum · 2025-12-18T01:59:59-0600

Nithavela said:
The order obviously only applies to Venezuela

Yes, Trump made that known about his 'illicit fentanyl' termination strategy. Yet you chose to falsely or maliciously include hospitals in that net --while you knew hospitals have legal permission to administer fentanyl.

Did @Hans Blaster or @BPPLEE or @DaisyDay send you to make that flagrant claim against the US President??

Nithavela said:
even though they play no role in the distribution of fentanyl. They just are an opportune target for oil raids.

You didn't answer the question. Although you did ensure to make yet another false claim against Trump's intentions. And, now I feel so sad for you or any other "Americans" who give the appearance of protecting narco terrorists from Trump’s exec order.

Factotum · 2025-12-18T02:16:07-0600

Desk trauma said:
You can use grown up words here...

You won't be able to comprehend what I post, if I do that.

Nithavela · 2025-12-18T03:22:23-0600

Factotum said:
Yes, Trump made that known about his 'illicit fentanyl' termination strategy. Yet you chose to falsely or maliciously include hospitals in that net --while you knew hospitals have legal permission to administer fentanyl.

Did @Hans Blaster or @BPPLEE or @DaisyDay send you to make that flagrant claim against the US President??

You didn't answer the question. Although you did ensure to make yet another false claim against Trump's intentions. And, now I feel so sad for you or any other "Americans" who give the appearance of protecting narco terrorists from Trump’s exec order.

And they say germans have no sense of humor...

Servus · 2025-12-18T03:23:28-0600

wing2000 said:
I didn't say thousands of people dying is "no biggie"....and stop implying otherwise, Servus.

How many of those 350,000 deaths will be prevented by delcaring a drug as a weapon of mass destruction?

I'm going by overall comments and attitudes expressed across the board. There seems to be great resistance to an aggressive proactive stance against fentanyl and other illegal drugs coming into the US.

Servus · 2025-12-18T03:26:08-0600

Desk trauma said:
But enough about tobacco and you’re short a 100,000.

Fentanyl has a lot of catching up to do.

Yes, let's keep coming up with excuses to do nothing about it.

Servus · 2025-12-18T03:27:49-0600

ViaCrucis said:
If you think that's crazy, you should see how some people act when it comes to the existence of pronouns.

Yeah, they really flip out when you don't use their preferred pronoun.

Servus · 2025-12-18T03:31:31-0600

Gene2memE said:
Fentanyl isn't killing "as many as 350,000 Americans per year". About 90,000 to 110,000 Americans die per year from drug overdoses of all kinds.

My bad. As many as 350k is over a period of about 5 years. Which I wrote originally. But obviously I got my wires crossed later on.

A2SG · 2025-12-18T03:40:13-0600

Servus said:
Yeah, they really flip out when you don't use their preferred pronoun.

That hasn't been my experience. The people I know who have preferred pronouns simply politely state that preference when it's needed, and if the preference is not respected, simply shrug it off, or, at worst, choose not to interact with that other person. I've never, not even once, met anyone who would "flip out" if their preferred pronouns were not being respected.

Maybe you have different experiences, I can't say...but I still suspect those who "flip out" are very much in the minority.

-- A2SG, people are different, ya know....

Bradskii · 2025-12-18T04:14:41-0600

Factotum said:
Yes, Trump made that known about his 'illicit fentanyl' termination strategy.

Why are you ignoring what your government is telling you about the sources of fentanyl?

Did you not read those links? They're very clear and very specific about where it comes from. Don't you trust them to tell you the truth?

Desk trauma · 2025-12-18T04:32:34-0600

Servus said:
Yes, let's keep coming up with excuses to do nothing about it.

…or stop using incorrect numbers.

Desk trauma · 2025-12-18T04:40:14-0600

Servus said:
I'm going by overall comments and attitudes expressed across the board. There seems to be great resistance to an aggressive proactive stance against fentanyl and other illegal drugs coming into the US.

Im against the drug war nonsense entirely, this latest incarnation with extrajudicial killings and looming military intervention is getting all my least favorite US polices together.

Factotum · 2025-12-18T05:33:46-0600

Servus said:
There seems to be great resistance to an aggressive proactive stance against fentanyl and other illegal drugs coming into the US.

I disagree. The proactive stance is NOT against fentanyl --it's against Trump!
You can trust, if it was Obama/Biden/Kamala taking this exact same approach as Trump, 99% of these critics would instead be silent and complaining about nothing. Just like they stayed silent toward Biden's inaction RE: fentanyl! lol

Want proof??

Check this website's archives for how anti-Trumpists treated Biden when his Administration took miniscule action against Fentanyl

wing2000 · 2025-12-18T06:46:23-0600

Servus said:
I'm going by overall comments and attitudes expressed across the board. There seems to be great resistance to an aggressive proactive stance against fentanyl and other illegal drugs coming into the US.

Did it occur to you that some of us are for effective drug interdiction methods. Blowing boats out of the water while making no effort to interdict, interrogate and prosecute is a fundamental violation of our values.

Now, can you answer the question?

wing2000 said:
How many of those 350,000 deaths will be prevented by delcaring a drug as a weapon of mass destruction?

Factotum · 2025-12-18T07:03:05-0600

Desk trauma said:
It's not like the WMDs have to be in the country, or exist, for the US to invade because of them.

hmmm... Did Trump learn this philosophy from Obama's RELENTLESS bombings of Yemen Afghanistan and Pakistan?!!!

Desk trauma · 2025-12-18T07:10:23-0600

Factotum said:
hmmm... Did Trump learn this philosophy from Obama's RELENTLESS bombings of Yemen Afghanistan and Pakistan?!!!

The WMD pretense harks back to Bush the younger however he may get the Obama era accomplishment of bombing a noble peace prize recipient.

Factotum · 2025-12-18T07:41:50-0600

Desk trauma said:
It's not like the WMDs have to be in the country, or exist, for the US to invade because of them.

I realize that being honest and truthful regarding anything "Trump" is often frowned upon by Liberal-Democrats, but... considering how Politico is a Liberal Democrat 'wrag'??? Then, if even they can be honest about Trump and Fentanyl --then every Trump critic should be:

The synthetic drug, which has some limited legal pharmacological uses... drug cartels manufacture fentanyl using “precursor chemicals” imported from China.

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/12/15/trump-fentanyl-weapon-mass-destruction-00691742

Servus · 2025-12-18T07:49:08-0600

wing2000 said:
Did it occur to you that some of us are for effective drug interdiction methods. Blowing boats out of the water while making no effort to interdict, interrogate and prosecute is a fundamental violation of our values.

Nothing seems to have been very effective so far. Certain people want no action whatsoever to take place. Except increased enabling welfare to drug addicts.

wing2000 said:
Now, can you answer the question?

That remains to be seen. Why is there so much protesting over fentanyl being called a weapon of mass destruction? I mean other that the usual "because Trump".

Servus · 2025-12-18T07:54:34-0600

Factotum said:
I disagree. The proactive stance is NOT against fentanyl --it's against Trump!
You can trust, if it was Obama/Biden/Kamala taking this exact same approach as Trump, 99% of these critics would instead be silent and complaining about nothing. Just like they stayed silent toward Biden's inaction RE: fentanyl! lol

Want proof??

Check this website's archives for how anti-Trumpists treated Biden when his Administration took miniscule action against Fentanyl

It's like the old saying goes. If Trump lead the fight against cancer, certain people would object to it. There would be pro-cancer protests.

Desk trauma · 2025-12-18T07:55:01-0600

Factotum said:
I realize that being honest and truthful regarding anything "Trump" is often frowned upon by Liberal-Democrats, but... considering how Politico is a Liberal Democrat 'wrag'??? Then, if even they can be honest about Trump and Fentanyl --then every Trump critic should be:

Point being?

wing2000 · 2025-12-18T08:18:11-0600

Servus said:
Nothing seems to have been very effective so far. Certain people want no action whatsoever to take place. Except increased enabling welfare to drug addicts.

That remains to be seen. Why is there so much protesting over fentanyl being called a weapon of mass destruction? I mean other that the usual "because Trump".

IOW, you're here to throw spitballs and falsely imply other members posting here "want no action whatsoever to take place" and want to enable welfare to drug addicts.

Let me know when you are interested in having a discussion based on what I and others write here....not what you imagine.

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