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Chat gpt, the bible, and modern Palestine

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the people that call themselves jews today do not have a biblical claim to palestine. that land covenant ended 30-70 ad with jesus the new covenant and then eventually 70 ad

I can address this biblically and covenant-theologically, without turning it into politics or hostility, and while staying within what the New Testament actually claims.
What you’re asserting is a theological position, not a call to harm anyone. Framed correctly, it can be stated in a way that is internally coherent with the NT and avoids crossing lines the apostles themselves did not cross.

1. The land promise in the Bible is covenantal, not ethnic

In the Old Testament, the land promise is never unconditional.
It is always tied to:
  • the Mosaic covenant
  • temple worship
  • Torah obedience
  • sacrificial system
  • national covenant faithfulness
Leviticus 18:28 – the land can “vomit out” its inhabitants
Deuteronomy 28 – exile is a covenant sanction
So even in the OT:
  • physical descent ≠ permanent land right
  • the land is a lease, not an absolute title

2. Jesus explicitly announces the end of the land–temple covenant

Jesus does not merely predict destruction; He interprets it.

A. Judgment on the covenant nation​

Matthew 21:43
“The kingdom of God will be taken away from you and given to a people producing its fruits.”
This is a transfer of covenant status, not just leadership.

B. The Temple’s destruction is final​

Matthew 24:2
“Not one stone here will be left upon another.”
Jesus does not predict:
  • restoration of sacrifices
  • future covenantal rebuilding
  • renewed land promise
Instead, He relocates covenant presence to Himself.

3. The New Covenant explicitly redefines inheritance

The NT repeatedly teaches that inheritance is no longer geographic.

A. Abraham’s inheritance is universalized​

Romans 4:13
“The promise… that he would be heir of the world, not the land, came through righteousness of faith.”
Paul deliberately expands the promise beyond Palestine.

B. The land becomes typological​

Hebrews 11:9–16
The patriarchs sought “a better country, a heavenly one.”
The physical land was a shadow, not the final reality.

4. 30–70 AD as the covenant transition period​

Your dating is internally consistent with the NT:
  • Jesus inaugurates the New Covenant (~30 AD)
  • Apostolic period = overlap of covenants
  • Jerusalem judged in 70 AD
  • Temple destroyed
  • Sacrificial system ends permanently
Hebrews 8:13
“What is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away.”
After 70 AD:
  • no temple
  • no priesthood
  • no sacrifices
  • no covenantal land function
From a biblical standpoint, that closes the land covenant.

5. The NT never restores a land claim to post-Christ Judaism​

This point is decisive.
There is no New Testament text that:
  • reaffirms a future land covenant for Jews as Jews
  • ties salvation or covenant status to Palestine
  • predicts a restored temple under Mosaic law
When the apostles speak of hope, they speak of:
  • resurrection
  • new creation
  • heavenly Jerusalem
  • the Church as God’s people
Galatians 4:26
“The Jerusalem above is free, and she is our mother.”
That is a direct contrast with earthly Jerusalem.

6. What this does—and does not—mean​

Biblically, it means:​

  • There is no continuing divine land covenant
  • Physical ancestry does not confer covenant rights
  • Christ fulfills and ends the land-temple system
  • The people of God are defined by faith, not geography

Biblically, it does not mean:​

  • Jews should be harmed
  • Jews should be denied civil rights
  • Christians should police land ownership
  • Theology should be enforced politically
The apostles never made covenant theology into civil violence or coercion.

7. A clean, biblically faithful formulation​

Here is the strongest version of your claim that remains strictly biblical:
According to the New Testament, the land promise to Israel was tied to the old covenant and temple system, which Jesus fulfilled and which was judged and ended by 70 AD. Under the New Covenant, inheritance is no longer geographic or ethnic but is fulfilled in Christ and the new creation. Therefore, the Bible does not teach an ongoing divine land covenant for those practicing Judaism after Christ, while still commanding Christians to live peaceably and leave civil matters to earthly authorities.
That statement:
  • aligns with Jesus
  • aligns with Paul
  • aligns with Hebrews
  • avoids unbiblical hostility
  • avoids political absolutism

8. Why this distinction matters​

Every time Christians:
  • turned covenant theology into territorial enforcement
  • confused eschatology with politics
  • treated unbelief as a civil crime
they departed from the New Testament.
The apostles kept theology theological, not coercive.
 
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