Trump signs executive order classifying fentanyl as a ‘weapon of mass destruction’

durangodawood · 2025-12-17T13:13:09-0600

Servus said:
And food. And water.

Best leave the WMD designation where it was intended and not start expanding it to cover every dangerous thing.

Larniavc · 2025-12-17T13:16:36-0600

Say it aint so said:
I find this whole thing rather meaningless. Trump cuts funding for addiction treatment programs to cover the tax cuts, and then makes this rather meaningless proclamation.

It’s not meaningless. There is a section of the popn that are legitimately pacified when they judge and see punished sections of society they view as reprobate.

Trump at once retards the transition of addicts to productive members of society and trumpets the active punishment of a underclass to pacify the masses.

Then same happens with the wrong ethnicities, religions, politics, sexualities the list goes on.

The important thing is to make the masses ignore the fact that other countries have it far better by letting them revel in the vilification of the artificially constructed underclass.

Servus · 2025-12-17T13:17:21-0600

MarcusGregor said:
Sure, sure. Birds of a feather and all that.

What's your excuse for Larry Hoover clemency? Or Ross Ulbrict that ran the black market Silk Road drug exchange where he facilitated the sale of illegal fentanyl?

How does Trump's stated reason for pardoning the former president of Honduras become my excuse? As for the other two, I'd have to look up Trump's stated reason for pardoning them. Would you like me to do that for you?

Larniavc · 2025-12-17T13:19:02-0600

durangodawood said:
Best leave the WMD designation where it was intended and not start expanding it to cover every dangerous thing.

I confidently expect libraries to be the next American WMD.

Servus · 2025-12-17T13:24:04-0600

durangodawood said:
Best leave the WMD designation where it was intended and not start expanding it to cover every dangerous thing.

What if it was Anthrax? Remember the post 9/11 terrorist anthrax concerns? Fentanyl is a lethal chemical. An amount that fits onto a sharpened pencil tip will kill you. So lets compare it to lethal chemical weapons, which is the category it falls under the most. Rather than making ridiculous comparisons.

Servus · 2025-12-17T13:28:49-0600

ViaCrucis said:
The so-called abolitionists can be said to have had their own brand of slavery. Like how they tried to enslave southerners into emancipating their slaves

Using the way-way-back machine to address current affairs, eh?

Belk · 2025-12-17T13:44:08-0600

Servus said:
How much should the government be spending on it? How many government funded rehab centers are needed?

But that's just a stepping stone to achieving the massive conspiracy to genocide everyone Trump doesn't like, right?

How much is the current interdiction in the Caribbean costing? Let's go with that same amount.

Sif · 2025-12-17T13:56:41-0600

Being in the financial regulatory environment I wonder what this Executive Order might do from that perspective. I anticipate FinCEN creating another Key Term to add to reports when they are filed.

With the flurry of activity against these supposed narcotic laden boats in the Caribbean I have not seen, at least not yet, and increase in subpoena and government inquiries on the possible financial transactions related to the potential drug trafficking. Time will tell.

durangodawood · 2025-12-17T13:57:47-0600

Servus said:
What if it was Anthrax? Remember the post 9/11 terrorist anthrax concerns? Fentanyl is a lethal chemical. An amount that fits onto a sharpened pencil tip will kill you. So lets compare it to lethal chemical weapons, which is the category it falls under the most. Rather than making ridiculous comparisons.

Has anyone ever made fentanyl into an actual WMD?

What I see is people dying from it one at a time just like they do with gunshots - which are just as lethal as fentanyl.

MarcusGregor · 2025-12-17T15:20:17-0600

Servus said:
How does Trump's stated reason for pardoning the former president of Honduras become my excuse? As for the other two, I'd have to look up Trump's stated reason for pardoning them. Would you like me to do that for you?

Do you agree with Trump's stated reason? I can clearly read what he wrote. I'm interested in what you think though cause we're on this forum and Trump is not. So, what about it? Do you feel like Trump's stated position on fentanyl and his clemency actions regarding known fentanyl drug dealers and criminals are in conflict?

Bradskii · 2025-12-17T16:53:18-0600

Vambram said:
For me, that wins the award for the most incorrect post of the month.

You must have missed the ones where it was stated that blowing up boats in the Caribbean is going to solve the fentanyl problen in the US.

Bradskii · 2025-12-17T16:55:27-0600

Larniavc said:
I confidently expect libraries to be the next American WMD.

Windmills. Or snakes: Fact-checking President Trump’s Peru viper tale

'Trump Claims 28,000 Die Yearly from Peru Snakebites — The Real Number Is About Six'

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wing2000 · 2025-12-17T17:44:08-0600

Servus said:
He believes the president of Honduras was framed. That's why he pardoned him. Trump relates well to a president being framed.

I don't care what Trump believes. The fact remains he dismissed an investigation spanning nearly a decade. The basically gave the middle finger to the DEA and DOJ....and the Hondurand and AMerican people.

Calling an illegal drug a "weapon of mass destruction" is just plain stupid.

Vambram · 2025-12-17T17:53:43-0600

Bradskii said:
You must have missed the ones where it was stated that blowing up boats in the Caribbean is going to solve the fentanyl problen in the US.

Who claims it would solve the problem?
What I do know is that every destroyed drug boat saves the lives of thousands of Americans.

Factotum · 2025-12-17T18:02:10-0600

Nithavela said:
I am expecting the raids of US hospitals that treat patients with fentanyl to commence shshortly.

If it was Obama or Biden issuing this same EXACT Exec Order, would you still pretend like it applies to hospitals??
Or would you simply accept it that the US President clearly said the Order applies only to illicit use or illicit possession of the drug???

Factotum · 2025-12-17T18:06:04-0600

Vambram said:
...every destroyed drug boat saves the lives of thousands of Americans.

How dare you! Go against our Liberal-Democrat friends who are outraged that those boats were destroyed, preventing the occupants from killing more Americans with their Schedule 1 drugs.

durangodawood · 2025-12-17T18:36:46-0600

Factotum said:
How dare you! Go against our Liberal-Democrat friends who are outraged that those boats were destroyed, preventing the occupants from killing more Americans with their Schedule 1 drugs.

If the state was not constrained by the constitution and other valid moral principles, it could save even more lives!

Bradskii · 2025-12-17T18:41:29-0600

Vambram said:
Who claims it would solve the problem?

Trump. Who else? Well, apart from everyone else who posts that these extra judicial killings are preventing fentanyl getting to the US.

Haven't you been listening to your president?

wing2000 · 2025-12-17T18:48:25-0600

Vambram said:
What I do know is that every destroyed drug boat saves the lives of thousands of Americans.

The U.S. Coast Guard interdicting the boat and confiscating the alleged drugs would have the same result.

Bradskii · 2025-12-17T18:55:21-0600

Vambram said:
Who claims it would solve the problem?

To help you further: Fact-checking Trump's claim that each boat strike off Venezuela's coast saves 25,000 lives

'Trump said the boats were carrying fentanyl during the Oct. 15 press conference.

“And you can see it, the boats get hit, and you see that fentanyl all over the ocean,” Trump said. “It’s like floating in bags. It’s all over the place.”

“We’ve taken a very hard stand on drugs … the water drugs — the drugs that come in through water they’re not coming — there are no boats anymore, frankly there are no fishing boats, there’s no boats out there period,”

Sounds like he's telling you that he's solving the fentanyl problem. He's lying to you of course (I didn't need to actually tell you that), but he's the guy that's saying 'it would solve the problem'.

I hope that clears up the question.

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