Ellen White on the mark of the beast for those that worship on Sunday

SabbathBlessings said:

Hebrew 4 is quoting Old Testament. It has 5 OT references in a short passage. Without knowing and understanding these references one will come to the wrong conclusion of this passage.

God already promised He would not change the words of His covenant Psa 88:34 Deut 4:13 Isa 56:6 not a jot or tittle Mat 5:18-so no Scriptures can say otherwise what God promised clearly He would not be altered. The author of Hebrews did not change God’s times and laws, that’s what He warned us about would happen but not by God. Dan7:25 Isa 8:20.

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So then every jot and tittle of the Torah applies to Christians?

Yes or no.

And don't go back peddling now.

ViaCrucis said:

So then every jot and tittle of the Torah applies to Christians?

Yes or no.

And don't go back peddling now.

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It applies to the Ten Commandments the commandments Jesus quoted from that were written by the Holy Spirit of Truth as if He needed correcting or there is another Authority greater.

Israel is God's son, are we not to be sons and daughters of God?

This of course did not respond to what God said that the Sabbath is for, everyone who wants to serve and join themselves to Him, who loves His name Isa56:6

ViaCrucis said:

The Torah was only for the Jewish people as part of the Covenant God established them at Mt. Horeb

Psalm 147:19-20

"He declares His word to Jacob,
His statutes and rules to Israel.
He has not dealt thus with any other nation;
they do not know His rules.
Hallelujah!"

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The Ten Commandments is God's commandments - His own written and spoken Testimony, they belong to Him and His people want to keep them through love and faith Rev14:12

SabbathBlessings said:

Hebrew 4 is quoting Old Testament. It has 5 OT references in a short passage. Without knowing and understanding these references one will come to the wrong conclusion of this passage.

God already promised He would not change the words of His covenant Psa 88:34 Deut 4:13 Isa 56:6 not a jot or tittle Mat 5:18-so no Scriptures can say otherwise what God promised clearly He would not be altered. The author of Hebrews did not change God’s times and laws, that’s what He warned us about would happen but not by God. Dan7:25 Isa 8:20.

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One has to take it in the context of the argument that Hebrews is makeing. At any rate, since you insist that Exodus 20:8-11 is spicifically calendric and must be observed as such and that those who rest in Christ as their sabbath are still disobedient to God then how can you dismiss Exodus 35:1-3. Any argument that you can think of for ignoring God's unchangeable law in this case can also be applied to Exodus 20:8-11. No one gets to have their cake and eat it too.

Mercy Shown said:

One has to take it in the context of the argument that Hebrews is makeing

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Yes exactly, which is OT. This passage is telling us why those who came before us did not enter into their promise land of rest, due to disobedience Heb4:6 and we are told plainly what they disobeyed that kept them out, breaking the Sabbath and God relates to idol worship Eze20:15-16 and Today, if we hear His voice, for us not to harden our hearts Heb4:7 Heb3:7-19 Psa95:7-14 and follow in their same path of disobedience Heb4:11 why this is promoting Sabbath-keeping which remains for the people of God just as God spoke in this way of the seventh day Heb4:4,9,10, this is not promoting Sabbath-breaking or changing God's Sabbath He said He would not Psa89:34 Deut4:13 Mat5:18-19. God's people keep God's commandments the way God said Rev14:12

Mercy Shown said:

. At any rate, since you insist that Exodus 20:8-11 is spicifically calendric and must be observed as such and that those who rest in Christ as their sabbath are still disobedient to God then how can you dismiss Exodus 35:1-3. Any argument that you can think of for ignoring God's unchangeable law in this case can also be applied to Exodus 20:8-11. No one gets to have their cake and eat it too.

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I think you might be confusing the law, with the judgment of the law- the wages of sin is death. We are no longer under a theocracy, Judgement is now on the last day. John12:48. There is a death penalty for murder and adultery as well, it doesn't mean we can do these things either, without repenting as we do no want to hear these words on that Great Day Mat7:23 if we continue in that path Heb10:26-30, I think there is a reason why God said Remember- because He knew almost everyone would forget. I believe He always means what He says and in this case He also personally wrote it out for us. Exo31:18