Is there another '1st World' country, where our darkskin-Black friends get arrested for having mental health crises?

BPPLEE · 2025-12-15T17:25:19-0600

Pommer said:
Why did the OP inject race into the thread?

Didn't you get it, he was only arrested because he is black. The white woman whose apartment he forced his way into should be ashamed of herself for calling the police.
She's obviously a Karen
And he shouldn't have lost his job, every coach deserves to have an inappropriate affair with a staffer.
She should have kept that on the down low.
Shame on her and the college

ThatRobGuy · 2025-12-15T19:07:33-0600

Factotum said:
I would think that if it happened in the Ann Arbor MI area, or Metropolitan radius... cops were likely:

1) afraid to shoot THEE MOST PRIZED person in the local area... Remember now, Michigan is one of Top5 largest, most polarized football programs in the USA.
2) aware that he had no previous criminal history
3) witnessing him fight through the mental health crisis
4) learned that the White woman was not in danger

Well, as I'm sure we all know...

A famous football figure with no priors, who's forced his way into the home of someone he'd be stalking (while in possession of knives) and in a questionably suicidal state, has never ended poorly before.

Did this guy own a Ford Bronco by any chance?

Factotum · 2025-12-15T19:50:20-0600

ThatRobGuy said:
A famous football figure with no priors, who's forced his way into the home of someone he'd be stalking (while in possession of knives) and in a questionably suicidal state, has never ended poorly before.

Yes, you are correct. Something that has never happened before, has never ended poorly before.

ThatRobGuy said:
Did this guy own a Ford Bronco by any chance?

Potentially worse; he might be a Trump supporter, existing among people who love the way millions of Liberal-Democrats hate our country and love terrorists who hurt Americans. I now wonder if he mightve even had an account on a certain message board too.

Factotum · 2025-12-15T20:01:48-0600

BPPLEE said:
Didn't you get it, he was only arrested because he is black

I agree. Especially if you are aware of the area this happened in. Black men are very subjugated there, from what I saw when I once spent 17 months there

BPPLEE said:
The white woman whose apartment he forced his way into should be ashamed of herself for calling the police.

I agree.
She should've called a mental health expert that responds to emergency, but hey... you know how us Whites can get sometimes after we help Blacks destroy their lives. LOL

BPPLEE said:
And he shouldn't have lost his job, every coach deserves to have an inappropriate affair with a staffer.

I disagree. I think those White powerful Administrators should have fired him when the relationship allegedly became known in the Athletic Dept... before the season started.
But hey, Michigan still had hopes of making the FBS playoffs... no need to disturb that, eh?
And so, once the season was a failure... they needed to concoct a reason to get rid of him.

BPPLEE said:
Shame on her and the college

Yes, indeed! :oldthumbsup:

ThatRobGuy · 2025-12-15T20:08:49-0600

Factotum said:
Yes, you are correct. Something that has never happened before, has never ended poorly before.

Potentially worse; he might be a Trump supporter, existing among people who love the way Liberal-Democrats hate our country and love terrorists who hurt Americans. I now wonder if he mightve even had an account on a certain message board too.

Forgive me for asking, but is this a "English as a second language" situation... evidently the humor aspect of what I posted didn't land.

I was clearly making an OJ Simpson joke there.

But since the ironic humor isn't landing, I'll re-state my earlier point.
As I noted before, home invasion situations aren't a "nuanced" situation in regards to police response.

It has nothing to do with the fact that he was Black, nor is the mental health state relevant.

There's no such thing as a "slap on the wrist" for a home invasion. It's a felony for a reason.

It's one of few crimes that, even several of the the blue states that are typically less friendly towards guns, authorizes the homeowner to shoot the person if they have that option available.

Trying to make it about race or his mental health situation is largely irrelevant. If a person was stalking me, and then ended up forcing their way into my home uninvited, it would very much be a "smile, and wait for the flash" from my .45 caliber camera.

BPPLEE · 2025-12-15T20:14:41-0600

Factotum said:
I agree. Especially if you are aware of the area this happened in. Black men are very subjugated there, from what I saw when I once spent 17 months there

I agree.
She should've called a mental health expert that responds to emergency, but hey... you know how us Whites can get sometimes after we help Blacks destroy their lives. LOL

I disagree. I think those White powerful Administrators should have fired him when the relationship allegedly became known in the Athletic Dept... before the season started.
But hey, Michigan still had hopes of making the FBS playoffs... no need to disturb that, eh?
And so, once the season was a failure... they needed to concoct a reason to get rid of him.

Yes, indeed!

The next time someone breaks into your house be sure and call a mental health professional because they might not be thinking clearly
And the college shouldn't have fired him, clearly he wasn't thinking straight, they should have got him some mental health counseling and fired the woman for tempting him

Factotum · 2025-12-15T20:42:27-0600

ThatRobGuy said:
Forgive me for asking, but is this a "English as a second language" situation...

I am unaware of what you are referring to, good friend. Perhaps, can you check to see if a local mirror possesses that situation you are referring to here?

ThatRobGuy said:
I was clearly making an OJ Simpson joke there.

Ohhhh, okay! LOL ...funny joke

I was confused here, you know, since OJ did not experience what you laid out there.

ThatRobGuy said:
As I noted before, home invasion situations aren't a "nuanced" situation in regards to police response.

Yes, they are. During a mental health crisis.

It's why laws were changed in multitudes of USA places... to let mental health professionals respond instead of cops, to situations where cops risk being insensitive or overzealous.

Let me know too, if you need factual examples.

ThatRobGuy said:
nor is the mental health state relevant.

I believe that is incorrect.

ThatRobGuy said:
There's no such thing as a "slap on the wrist" for a home invasion. It's a felony for a reason.

Not automatically. Like, when it comes to a mental health crisis.

ThatRobGuy said:
Trying to make it about race or his mental health situation is largely irrelevant.

I disagree. And I believe the law supports my stance here.

ThatRobGuy · 2025-12-15T20:45:40-0600

Me: Forgive me for asking, but is this a "English as a second language" situation...

-- I am unaware of what you are referring to, good friend. Perhaps, can you check to see if a local mirror possesses that situation you are referring to here?

--It's why laws were changed in multitudes of USA places...

So the answer to my question appears to be "Yes"

BPPLEE · 2025-12-15T21:11:42-0600

Factotum said:
I am unaware of what you are referring to, good friend. Perhaps, can you check to see if a local mirror possesses that situation you are referring to here?

Ohhhh, okay! LOL ...funny joke

I was confused here, you know, since OJ did not experience what you laid out there.

Yes, they are. During a mental health crisis.

It's why laws were changed in multitudes of USA places... to let mental health professionals respond instead of cops, to situations where cops risk being insensitive or overzealous.

Let me know too, if you need factual examples.

I believe that is incorrect.

Not automatically. Like, when it comes to a mental health crisis.

I disagree. And I believe the law supports my stance here.

Having a mental health crisis does not give someone free rein to break the law.
If the police had not arrested him and he came back and harmed the woman the police would be liable.
Because they had been in a relationship this was a domestic violence situation and most police departments have strict guidelines about how those situations are handled

Factotum · 2025-12-15T21:17:03-0600

BPPLEE said:
Having a mental health crisis does not give someone free reign to break the law.

Mental health crises are not automatically deemed that way, when responded to correctly and compassionately.

It's why you often see Courts deem a person as 'mentally unfit' to stand trial for the charges they face.

BPPLEE · 2025-12-15T21:20:56-0600

Factotum said:
Mental health crises are not automatically deemed that way, when responded to correctly and compassionately.

It's why you often see Courts deem a person as 'mentally unfit' to stand trial for the charges they face.

Yes, the COURT can get him some mental health treatment, the police have to worry about him coming back and hurting the woman because that would make them liable. Because they had been in a relationship this was a domestic violence situation and most police departments have strict guidelines for how those situations are handled. At the department I worked at if there were any signs of injury we had to make an arrest

Factotum · 2025-12-15T21:25:07-0600

ThatRobGuy said:
So the answer to my question appears to be "Yes"

I have no control over assumptions nor hallucinations.

I can only suggest checking with a local mirror, for any answers to English/2nd language inquisitions or incantations.

Factotum · 2025-12-15T21:29:25-0600

BPPLEE said:
...the police have to worry about him coming back and hurting the woman because that would make them liable.

He threatened to harm only himself. He had ample time and opportunity to hurt others, before law enforcement showed up.

As much as many people like to believe its okay... The police have no authority nor power, to misrepresent the circumstances they arrived to find, just to act overzealously.

BPPLEE · 2025-12-15T21:34:08-0600

Factotum said:
He threatened to harm only himself. He had ample time and opportunity to hurt others, before law enforcement showed up.

As much as many people like to believe its okay... The police have no authority nor power, to misrepresent the circumstances they arrived to find, just to act overzealously.

It doesn't matter, he exhibited violent behavior by forcing his way into the woman's residence and since they had been in a relationship that makes it domestic violence, and frankly you don't know what he said you only know what was reported

Factotum · 2025-12-15T21:42:34-0600

BPPLEE said:
It doesn't matter...

I disagree. And I believe the law supports my stance.

BPPLEE · 2025-12-15T21:48:07-0600

Factotum said:
I disagree. And I believe the law supports my stance.

You're mistaken. I was in law enforcement for 16 years before going into private security and I arrested more people for domestic violence than anything else.
It's a situation where you have to take action or risk getting sued.
If the police had not arrested the man and he came back and hurt the woman they would be liable

Factotum · 2025-12-15T21:52:38-0600

BPPLEE said:
I was in law enforcement for 16 years...

Did you know that Law Enforcement officers/cops often take incorrect actions? Even when allowed to.
Especially against our nation's melanated citizens.

BPPLEE · 2025-12-15T21:54:25-0600

Factotum said:
Did you know that Law Enforcement officers/cops often take incorrect actions? Even when allowed to.
Especially against our nation's melanated citizens.

How much experience do you have in law enforcement?

Factotum · 2025-12-15T21:57:12-0600

Pommer said:
Why did the OP inject race into the thread?

Because the OP's author has
1)never known of a similar or same mental health situation where a White person in mental distress was treated that way.
2)lived in that area before, and did witness how our Black friends are often not extended the same 1st Class citizenry that we Whites enjoy from local police.

Factotum · 2025-12-15T22:02:42-0600

BPPLEE said:
How much experience do you have in law enforcement?

Vast.

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