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Shootings at Bondi Beach

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It's breaking news but there have been multiple shootings at Bondi Beach in Sydney, Australia.


The death and injury toll is as yet unkown.

Two suspects have been arrested but not identified. I'll bet a pound to a penny that they are Moslems.

Jewish celebration was taking place at location of shooting
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The shooting appears to have taken place at the northern end of Bondi Beach, near or at Bondi Park Playground.

We don't yet have any information about the target or nature of the shooting, but we can confirm that a Chanukah by the Sea event was scheduled to take place at that playground from 5pm, and had begun.

Today is the first day of Chanukah, or Hanukkah, an eight-day Jewish festival of lights.
 

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I'm one hundred percent sure the gunmen are Moslem. It seems the police are carrying out raids in Sydney.

There was one bright spot in which a local hero successfully tackled one of the gunmen and disarmed him.

 
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Yes, we do have strict gun control laws, but organised crime and terrorist cells will always manage to get hold of weapons.

When another bloke and I were putting up a fence line from our house to the side fence, I said "I suppose this will make the place a bit more secure than it was".

The other bloke quipped, "Yes, it will keep the honest people out". And that's about it.

It seems they intended to detonate an IED but failed to so so thankfully. Likewise terrorists can get their hands on those components as well, whereas the ordinary honest citizen wouldn't even know where to start.
 
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It's breaking news but there have been multiple shootings at Bondi Beach in Sydney, Australia.


The death and injury toll is as yet unkown.

Two suspects have been arrested but not identified. I'll bet a pound to a penny that they are Moslems.
On a day of celebration and remembrance, the Jewish community of Australia gathered on Bondi Beach, Sydney, for a "Chanukah By The Sea" for a planned menorah lighting for the first night of Hanukkah, and associated festivities. Only to be killed or wounded by these two Muslim men with guns, following the precepts of Islam, who assaulted the event.

At least 11 people are dead (plus one of the shooters), and over 29 were hospitalized in the attack. Among those dead are a 12 year old girl, at least one Holocaust survivor who has been identified, and Rabbi Eli Schlanger (a well known Australian Rabbi, who was born in London, and who just recently greeted the birth of a fifth child into his family in October)

Israeli officials heap blame on Australian government after Bondi Beach shooting: 'Countless warning signs'​


Israeli officials were quick to lay blame for the deadly shooting in Sydney, Australia, at the feet of the nation's government on Sunday, saying it had ignored "countless warning signs" of antisemitism.

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu read aloud at a government meeting a letter that he sent to Australian Prime Minister Anthony Albanese earlier this year when Albanese declared his support for a Palestinian state.

"Your call for a Palestinian state pours fuel on the antisemitic fire. It rewards Hamas terrorists. It emboldens those who menace Australian Jews and encourages the Jew hatred now stalking your streets. Antisemitism is a cancer. It spreads when leaders stay silent; it retreats when leaders act. I call upon you to replace weakness with action, appeasement with resolve," Netanyahu read.

"Instead, Prime Minister, you replaced weakness with weakness and appeasement with more appeasement. Your government did nothing to stop the spread of antisemitism in Australia. You did nothing to curb the cancer cells that were growing inside your country. You took no action. You let the disease spread and the result is the horrific attacks on Jews we saw today," Netanyahu said.


Israeli President Isaac Herzog and Foreign Minister Gideon Saar also released uncommonly stark statements following Sunday's shooting, which killed at least 11 people and hospitalized 29.

"Time and again we called on the Australian government to take action and fight against the enormous wave of antisemitism that is plaguing Australian society," Herzog said in a statement on social media, posting an image of a prayer shawl stained in blood.

Saar was even more heavily critical of Australian authorities, arguing they had ignored clear signs of rising Islamist extremism and antisemitism.

"I am appalled by the murderous shooting attack at a Hanukkah event in Sydney, Australia. This is the result of the antisemitic rampage in the streets of Australia over the past two years, including the antisemitic and inciting calls of 'Globalize the Intifada,' which were realized today," Saar said in a statement, sharing the same photo as Herzog.


"The Australian government, which received countless warning signs, must come to its senses!" he added.

Police say at least two gunmen participated in Sunday's attack, which targeted a Jewish "Chanukah By The Sea" event at Sydney's famous Bondi Beach. One of the alleged gunmen was killed in the attack, and the other is hospitalized. Police are investigating whether there may have been a third shooter.

Police say they also found evidence of multiple improvised explosive devices in a vehicle near the scene of the attack.

"We have our rescue bomb disposal unit there at the moment working on that," said the police commissioner for New South Wales.

New York Post also had a good article, more on the victims:

Famed Australian rabbi Eli Schlanger, who just welcomed newborn son, among 11 killed in Bondi Beach terror attack​

A popular rabbi who had recently welcomed a new son just two months ago has been named as one of the first victims in Sunday’s deadly terrorist attack in Sydney which targeted worshippers at a Hanukkah event.

Rabbi Eli Schlanger, 41, had been one of the 2,000 in attendance at the event on Bondi Beach to mark the first night of Hanukkah when two terrorists opened fire on the crowd, killing at least 11 people and wounding 29 others.

Schlanger, the assistant rabbi at Chabad of Bondi in Sydney, had shared news of his new son in an Oct. 12 post on Facebook.

The father-of-five was born in the UK, where friends and family remembered him as “vivacious” and “joyful.”

His cousin, Rabbi Zalman Lewis, from Brighton, England, only learned of Schlanger’s death when a relative saw a list of the victims people were being asked to pray for.

“I left shul this morning and saw messages from my wife and sister on the family WhatsApp group. They recognised one of the names people were being asked to pray for,” Lewis told the British outlet Jewish News.
“We are just beginning to process this. It makes no sense at all. How can a joyful rabbi who went to a beach to spread happiness and light, to make the world a better place, have his life ended in this way?” he said.

Schlanger’s great-uncle, the late Reverend Lesli Olsberg, served as a rabbi at Heaton Park Synagogue in Manchester, where two congregants were murdered in a terror attack during Yom Kippur last October.

Following that attack, he had criticised Australia’s Prime Minister for “fuelling terrorism” in the country.
“In these difficult times, we must stand united. Terrorism must never be excused, rewarded or negotiated with,” he wrote, as reported by Jewish News.

“To Anthony Albanese [Australia’s Prime Minister], I say this with urgency – stop fuelling terrorism by legitimizing those who spread hate. Listen to the voices of those who understand it firsthand,” he wrote.

Just weeks ago, Rabbi Schlanger had written a letter to the PM begging him to support Israel.
“As a rabbi in Sydney, I beg you not to betray the Jewish people and not God himself,” Schlanger wrote to Albanese, a left-winger widely seen as critical of Israel, according to Australian outlet Channel 12.

“Jews have been torn from their land again and again by leaders who are now remembered with contempt in the pages of history. You have an opportunity to stand on the side of justice,” Schlanger wrote.

“I congratulate you in advance for the courage to do what is right and stand firm against this act of heresy,” he wrote.

Israeli author Hen Mazzig shared a sweet video of Rabbi Schlanger last year celebrating Hanukkah.

“May Rabbi Eli Schlanger’s memory be a blessing. Tonight, I will light the menorah in his commemoration and in memory of every victim who was murdered solely because they were Jewish. You cannot extinguish our light,” Mazzig wrote in an Instagram post sharing the clip.
 
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Doesn't Australia have strict control laws? I believe semi-automatic rifles were outlawed years back.
Looking at the video footage and pictures from the scene, it appears one of the gunmen used a shotgun and the other a bolt-action rifle.
 
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Appears to have been a father and son duo. The gunman who was killed was the father, a fruit shop owner. The son is in custody at the hospital.

 
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Hearing now that one of those who was wounded, is a survivor of the October 7th Islamic terrorist attack in Israel.
Imagine the horror of surviving that atrocity a little over two years ago, moving to Australia to get away from the dangers of living with Hamas on your border, and then getting attacked again by more Islamic terrorists and shot while going to a menorah lighting on the beach on the other side of the planet.
 
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While it is obvious that a Moslem terrorist cell was behind this massacre, it was another Moslem who tackled the gunman. He was also wounded twiice himself.


BREAKING: HERO! The man who bravely stopped mass shooting at a Hannukah event in Australia has been identified as a Muslim man, Ahmed al-Ahmed.

He’s a fruit shop owner who has no experience with guns, but he risked his life to save others, and ended up taking a bullet in the leg for his trouble.

While Donald Trump and conservatives all over the world demonize immigrants, Muslims, and people who aren’t white Christians, al-Ahmed’s acts is a powerful reminder of the good that immigration brings; that there are good people everywhere who will risk their lives in order to protect a stranger, and that Donald Trump and Stephen Miller are nothing but vicious liars who incite this kind of violence with their disgusting racism.

I dont' think the Australian government will change its policy on a Palestinian state, even if Netanyahu and Herzog don't like it.

One of the reasons for the alleged rise in anti-Semitism (which in its vilurent form is mostly Moslem based anyway) has been at least partly due to the public perception of Israel's heavy handed treatement of the Palestinians. They carried out their own massacres, although Hamas has a lot to answer for. Jewish settlers have been taking Palestinian properties for years.

Do I think there will be a quick solution? No. As my old pastor said to me once, although he was speaking hyperbolically, that's going to be a problem for the next 300 years (Israel - Middle East confrontation).

He also posed another hypothetical scenario - "Suppose there is an Arab statesman who does a bit of fence building with his mates. Then they say to the West 'Right boys, either you get Israel out of there or we turn off the taps (oil)'."

He continued "We'd all be broke in a week".

We get most of our oil from the Middle East even if it is refined elsewhere.

Netanyahu and Herzog don't determine our foreign policy.
 
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While it is obvious that a Moslem terrorist cell was behind this massacre, it was another Moslem who tackled the gunman. He was also wounded twiice himself.




I dont' think the Australian government will change its policy on a Palestinian state, even if Netanyahu and Herzog don't like it.

One of the reasons for the alleged rise in anti-Semitism (which in its vilurent form is mostly Moslem based anyway) has been at least partly due to the public perception of Israel's heavy handed treatement of the Palestinians. They carried out their own massacres, although Hamas has a lot to answer for. Jewish settlers have been taking Palestinian properties for years.

Do I think there will be a quick solution? No. As my old pastor said to me once, although he was speaking hyperbolically, that's going to be a problem for the next 300 years (Israel - Middle East confrontation).

He also posed another hypothetical scenario - "Suppose there is an Arab statesman who does a bit of fence building with his mates. Then they say to the West 'Right boys, either you get Israel out of there or we turn off the taps (oil)'."

He continued "We'd all be broke in a week".

We get most of our oil from the Middle East even if it is refined elsewhere.

Netanyahu and Herzog don't determine our foreign policy.
Actually it turned out the person who tackled the gunman appears to be a Lebanese Christian. He also isn't a fruit shop owner (which was also being reported). There appears to have been some confusion in the details, it's the shooter who was killed (father of the other shooter) who was the Muslim fruit store owner. Alleged Bondi shooter told family he was going fishing
 
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You may be right, but even the Jerusalem Post identified him as Moslem. Whether they did their own research, or merely quoted others remains to be seen.

 
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Common sense.

They were two big men of middle eastern appearance, with Moslem style beards, massacring people on a Jewish festival, hot on the heels of the Israel-Hamas conflict with widespread death and destruction in Palestine, just over ten years from the Lindt Cafe Siege on the 15-16 December 2014, while Sydney tends to be the centre of anti-Jewish sentiment with a lot of Middle Easterners in the western suburbs.

 
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Looking at the video footage and pictures from the scene, it appears one of the gunmen used a shotgun and the other a bolt-action rifle.
So, shotguns and bolt action rifles will be banned next.
 
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