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Ilhan Omar blasted over resurfaced comments on Somali influence in the US as Elon Musk suggests she committed treason

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Congresswoman Omar should not be pledging help to any foreign nation. This has been the concern not with just Omar, but with the Somali community, that there first loyalty may not be to the United States of America. She should be out there every day saying the individuals involved in fraud are not representative of Somalians, she should denounce their actions and encourage all in the community to come forward with information on fraud.
 
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Ilhan Omar speech proved to be mistranslated but outrage continues spread

Republicans, rightwing figures and foreign politicians have seized upon the video despite proof the lawmaker was misquoted

According to the Minnesota Reformer, a Minnesota-based news outlet, which worked with two independent Somali translators, Omar said: “We are people who know that they are Somali and Muslim”, not that she was “Somalians first” as the video suggested.



Omar’s speech accurately translates to the following:

“As Somali people, we are people who love each other. We might have some disagreements, but when things get real, we are people who have each other’s backs. We are brothers and sisters, courageous people, and people who know they are Somalis and Muslims, and support each other and their brethren.

When we heard the other day that some Somali people—or who claim to be Somalis—signed an agreement with Ethiopia, many people called me and said to me, ‘Ilhan, you should talk to the U.S. government. What’s the U.S. government going to do about this?

My answer was that the U.S. government would do what we ask it to do. We should have this kind of confidence in ourselves as Somalis. We live in this country, we are taxpayers. This is the country where one of your own is sitting in Congress. As long as I am in Congress, no one can take Somalia’s sea, and the U.S. government won’t support others to rob us. Don’t stress over it, Minnesotans.”
 
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Congresswoman Omar should not be pledging help to any foreign nation. This has been the concern not with just Omar, but with the Somali community, that there first loyalty may not be to the United States of America. She should be out there every day saying the individuals involved in fraud are not representative of Somalians, she should denounce their actions and encourage all in the community to come forward with information on fraud.
Elon says that other people say things about someone else?

Yet another vapour post. Well done that man.
 
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As far as I can see Ilhan Omar has spoken and spread narratives for hate towards the US and those who represent its long held values. You only have to go back and listen to her plain English language lol.
What "long held values" are those?
 
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As far as I can see Ilhan Omar has spoken and spread narratives for hate towards the US and those who represent its long held values. You only have to go back and listen to her plain English language lol.
March 14, 2025: “I am someone who has experienced the kind of divisiveness that brings a nation to its knees. My hope is that, as Americans, we open our eyes to that potential—and do whatever we can to keep that American exceptionalism alive, and that we continue to support the institutions that create stability, and have created stability for the United States, and that we hold on to the Constitution that binds us all.”

July 4, 2025: "Happy Independence Day America! I am proud to be American. To me, the real patriots are those who push their country to do better and live up to its ideals. Because if you love America as a beacon of hope, you have to love liberty and justice for all. America and its ideals are always worth fighting for."

March 17, 2025: "30 years ago, my family arrived in the United States, a land of hope and opportunity. I'm fighting so everyone can have a real chance at the American dream. That includes making sure everyone has healthcare, stable housing, and a quality education."

August 31, 2023: "I remember how beautiful it was to get naturalized, it’s a feeling of belonging that stays with you... [I'm] always and forever grateful to America for giving me and my family the ability to live in a country without limitations to achieve my dreams of happiness and success."

July 4. 2020: "True patriotism is not about defending one leader or political party. It is about fighting for your country and its dignity — doing everything you can to uplift and protect your citizens and the Constitution."

May 14, 2019: “As Americans, we must all stand together in rejecting hate and embracing one another in order to create a country and a culture of unity and justice."
 
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March 14, 2025: “I am someone who has experienced the kind of divisiveness that brings a nation to its knees. My hope is that, as Americans, we open our eyes to that potential—and do whatever we can to keep that American exceptionalism alive, and that we continue to support the institutions that create stability, and have created stability for the United States, and that we hold on to the Constitution that binds us all.”

July 4, 2025: "Happy Independence Day America! I am proud to be American. To me, the real patriots are those who push their country to do better and live up to its ideals. Because if you love America as a beacon of hope, you have to love liberty and justice for all. America and its ideals are always worth fighting for."

March 17, 2025: "30 years ago, my family arrived in the United States, a land of hope and opportunity. I'm fighting so everyone can have a real chance at the American dream. That includes making sure everyone has healthcare, stable housing, and a quality education."

August 31, 2023: "I remember how beautiful it was to get naturalized, it’s a feeling of belonging that stays with you... [I'm] always and forever grateful to America for giving me and my family the ability to live in a country without limitations to achieve my dreams of happiness and success."

July 4. 2020: "True patriotism is not about defending one leader or political party. It is about fighting for your country and its dignity — doing everything you can to uplift and protect your citizens and the Constitution."

May 14, 2019: “As Americans, we must all stand together in rejecting hate and embracing one another in order to create a country and a culture of unity and justice."
I don't want to get into a competition on what Omar has said. Are you saying she has not said or done things that show she hates the US, whites and Jews. In the language and narratives she uses.

From what I have heard she has often mentioned white supremacy and in fact just about blames everything on western white supremacy ect. The same Critical race theory ideology others push with DEI.

I mean even her own Deomcrates have criticised her for her Tweets on Isreal and also likening the US and Isreal with Hamas and Taliban.

But mostly I feel the whole fraud thing was under her watch. She was closely linked to a lot of this. I am not saying she did anything wrong. But that her attention was more on her own people and not the good of the US. Perhaps like Waltz they seen something going on but turned a blind eye because they were afraid of upsetting people.

I am pretty sure a lot of these same people who were defrauding were supporting her campaign election with funding. Its not a good look.
 
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I don't want to get into a competition on what Omar has said. Are you saying she has not said or done things that show she hates the US, whites and Jews. In the language and narratives she uses.
No, what we are saying is that what she has said and done do not show hatred for the US. Certainly no one has posted anything in this thread which conveys such hatred toward the US. She has certainly shown contempt for MAGA, which I congratulate her for.
 
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No, what we are saying is that what she has said and done do not show hatred for the US. Certainly no one has posted anything in this thread which conveys such hatred toward the US. She has certainly shown contempt for MAGA, which I congratulate her for.
Why would you have contempt for MAGA. Was not this the majority that won the election. Are you saying you have contyempt for MAGA supporters.

This is the very identity politics I am talking about.
 
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Why would you have contempt for MAGA. Was not this the majority that won the election. Are you saying you have contyempt for MAGA supporters.
No, just MAGA policies.
This is the very identity politics I am talking about.
Yes, the politics which allows you, an Austrailian, to dictate what "identities" people in America are supposed to have. :D
 
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But mostly I feel the whole fraud thing was under her watch.
She is in the US Congress; she works in Washington, D. C. so your feelings seem more informed by prejudice than by facts, as you have given no facts to support your feeling.
She was closely linked to a lot of this.
How so? Because she's from there?
I am not saying she did anything wrong.
No? She didn't do anything wrong but "the whole fraud thing was under her watch"?
But that her attention was more on her own people and not the good of the US.
You do know that, unlike the president who is supposed to represent the entire nation, congresscritters are elected specifically to represent their constituents?
Perhaps like Waltz they seen something going on but turned a blind eye because they were afraid of upsetting people.
Walz' administration caught the fraud and turned it over to the feds. Perhaps your accusations are not founded in any facts.
 
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You should know those lol. Like the Freedoms we have come to know, democracy, Rule of Law, meritocracy, human rights ect.
All of which Omar supports. No wonder Trump hates her.
 
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Why would you have contempt for MAGA. Was not this the majority that won the election. Are you saying you have contyempt for MAGA supporters.
No. Trump won by a plurality, not a majority. Furthermore, not everyone who voted for him are Magadonians.
This is the very identity politics I am talking about.
An awful lot of us oppose MAGA policies, many of which are designed (see Project2025) to dismantle our government, many of which disregard established laws and regulations outright. You, on the other hand, seem laser-focused on her identity as a naturalized immigrant from Somalia - projection. You seem willing to put the sins of any Somalians on her personally.
 
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No. Trump won by a plurality, not a majority. Furthermore, not everyone who voted for him are Magadonians.
Magadonian, thats a new one lol.
An awful lot of us oppose MAGA policies, many of which are designed (see Project2025) to dismantle our government,
This whole project 25 is just one of a number of false narratives that have been put out there. Also some of the ideas are quite commonsense. I don't know what all the conflation is about like its some sort of theocracy lol.

But the whole Project 25 has been busted as a myth and c onspiracy anyway.
many of which disregard established laws and regulations outright.
There has been this false narrative about Trump for a decade now. He has never become the dictator the false narratives have claimed. Its all hyperbole and designed to create this us verse them politics. The big scarry monster who is going to take away our freedoms.

When in fact it was the otherway around from what they are finding with all the Lawfare, fraud and controlling of media and targeting conservatives and Christians. Gaslighting everyone over Biden and bypassing the democratic process in selection Harris ect. I mean they put forward Waltz which shows something was wrong with their selection or oversight.

I don't trust either as far as Christian belief and values. Luckily I don't have to vote in the US. But we do in Australia and we have a similar divide between Left and Right. If I have to vote out of two bad candidates I will tend to vote conservative as its closest to my beliefs. I cannot side with a party that supports abortion or other progressive ideas.

Otherwise I try and vote locally for a member who is closest to my beliefs. I actually did not vote for around 10 years. Then they found me lol.
You, on the other hand, seem laser-focused on her identity as a naturalized immigrant from Somalia - projection. You seem willing to put the sins of any Somalians on her personally.
Nah, I would say the same for anyone who uses such language. If you noticed I mentioned it was from the same school of thought as Critical Race theory and DEI. I know the language and its divisive and hateful. You may not recognise it.

But when people talk about white supremacy and bring up race in just about every answer. I know its identity politics. Pointing that out is not IP. Its highlighting it as obviously some don't see it as well until its identified.

I have not issues with immigrants, we are all immigrants to some extent. I trace back to African American slaves. I guess thats why I have an interest in US politics. But its similar to my nation generally. We are only 250 years young lol. We have had waves of immigrants to make our nation. But we also know that some who come don't like our western nations way of life and bring their own problems.

But its also the administration of integrating immigrants into the host culture rather than creating divisions. I see the whole immigration, illegal immigration and lack of integration as mess. Its associated with a lot of bad stuff that has cost a lot of people. The real culprits are those in charge who orchestrated this. Because it did not happen by accident. This was poor policiy and management.

Thats the true crime and moral wrong. That leaders who were suppose to do the right thing and set the example and look after the needy. Abused their position and allowed this to get to such a point that it costs so much financially and in human suffering.
 
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Magadonian, thats a new one lol.
Not really - it was coined by Mr. MAGA himself.
This whole project 25 is just one of a number of false narratives that have been put out there. Also some of the ideas are quite commonsense. I don't know what all the conflation is about like its some sort of theocracy lol.

But the whole Project 25 has been busted as a myth and c onspiracy anyway.
Lols, it really has not. Many of the people who wrote it were put in charge and have carried out the dismantling. Since you say you don't know what the conflation is about, you obviously haven't looked into it. See Russell Vought now Director of the Office of Management and (OMB), Brendan Carr now Federal Communications Commission (FCC), John Ratcliffe now Director of the CIA, Thomas Douglas Homan now Border Czar, Stephen Miller now both Deputy Chief of Staff for Policy AND US Homeland Security Advisor, Karoline Leavitt now Press Secretary AND Assistant to the President, and Peter Navarro now Senior Counselor for Trade and Manufacturing AND Assistant to the President to name a few.

There has been this false narrative about Trump for a decade now. He has never become the dictator the false narratives have claimed. Its all hyperbole and designed to create this us verse them politics. The big scarry monster who is going to take away our freedoms.
What do you mean "our freedoms"? He is not gunning for Australians as they are among the "good ones". He sicced his agents on Americans, particularly Democratic Congressmembers, the press, blue states, naturalized citizens, etc. He has called for the end of birthright citizenship - he tried to do that by fiat, not legislation.

Us *versus* them is his political stock in trade - he is constantly labeling political foes as "the enemy from within" and "traitors".
When in fact it was the otherway around from what they are finding with all the Lawfare, fraud and controlling of media and targeting conservatives and Christians. Gaslighting everyone over Biden and bypassing the democratic process in selection Harris ect. I mean they put forward Waltz which shows something was wrong with their selection or oversight.
Accusation in a mirror. Everything they accused the opposition of doing, they do themselves in spades. He has his entire political life called for locking up his opponents - now he is attempting to do it without regards to actual law.
Nah, I would say the same for anyone who uses such language. If you noticed I mentioned it was from the same school of thought as Critical Race theory and DEI. I know the language and its divisive and hateful. You may not recognise it.

But when people talk about white supremacy and bring up race in just about every answer. I know its identity politics. Pointing that out is not IP. Its highlighting it as obviously some don't see it as well until its identified.
Most of politics is identity politics very much including MAGA politics ("They will not replace us").
I have not issues with immigrants, we are all immigrants to some extent. I trace back to African American slaves. I guess thats why I have an interest in US politics. But its similar to my nation generally. We are only 250 years young lol. We have had waves of immigrants to make our nation. But we also know that some who come don't like our western nations way of life and bring their own problems.
Sadly, there seems to be no perfect culture in part because one man's meat is another man's poison.
 
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I don't want to get into a competition on what Omar has said. Are you saying she has not said or done things that show she hates the US, whites and Jews. In the language and narratives she uses.

From what I have heard she has often mentioned white supremacy and in fact just about blames everything on western white supremacy ect. The same Critical race theory ideology others push with DEI.

I mean even her own Deomcrates have criticised her for her Tweets on Isreal and also likening the US and Isreal with Hamas and Taliban.

But mostly I feel the whole fraud thing was under her watch. She was closely linked to a lot of this. I am not saying she did anything wrong. But that her attention was more on her own people and not the good of the US. Perhaps like Waltz they seen something going on but turned a blind eye because they were afraid of upsetting people.

I am pretty sure a lot of these same people who were defrauding were supporting her campaign election with funding. Its not a good look.
Being against/opposing white supremacy is not the same as being against/opposing white people. Many white people have and continue to fight against white supremacy and racism.
 
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