Inspired texts outside the protestant canon

Apocrypha means hidden, and God hides things God hides things especially from Christians that are wise in their own eyes eg the ones at universities that have degrees, and in my experience when it comes to the bible in plain English have no clue what they are talking about or worse teach false doctrine.
There are books that are outside the protestant canon that are inspired only for the wise that seek them out.

Jesus talking to the Sadducees who asked about resurrection.

Mathew 22 29 Jesus replied, “You are in error because you do not know the Scriptures or the power of God. 30 At the resurrection people will neither marry nor be given in marriage; they will be like the angels in heaven.

God talking to the fallen angels pre flood in 1 Enoch that left heaven, came down to earth, and married women

1 Enoch 15
But you originally existed as spirits, living forever,
and not dying for all the generations of eternity;
7 therefore I did not make women among you.’
The spirits of heaven, in heaven is their dwelling;

He calls 1 Enoch scripture, and Jude says "Enoch 7th from Adam" so Jude believed what he was quoting was written before Noahs flood, and not pseudepigrapha first written 300 BC, and backdated. Jude, and 1 Enoch
The Sadducees stuff up a story from Tobit about the woman being married then demons killing her 7 husbands each night before the marriage too. They forgot to add she married successfully the 8th time. So Jesus is calling Tobit scripture too. That was written in the 700s, and 600s BC, 1 Enoch was written 4400-4000 BC after creation 5500 BC but before Noahs flood 3300 BC. There are a lot of other texts inspired apocrypha that are not pseudepigrapha for the wise only too. My summary list of the most important ones are 1 Enoch, Life of Adam, and Eve, Assumption of Moses, 1/2 Maccabees. For the NT Gospel of Nicodemus, History of Joseph the Carpenter, Proto James. All on audiobook on youtube or annas archive and internet archive are two free e book websites.
There are 2 canons of the bible.

Luke 24:44-53 He said to them, “Remember when I was with you before? I said that everything written about me must happen—everything in the law of Moses, the books of the prophets, and the Psalms.” Then Jesus opened their minds so they could understand the Scriptures.

This canon list excludes 1 Enoch, and other OT texts (Jubilees, Test of the 12 patriarchs, Tobit, 1/2 Maccabees, and others). Josephus gave the same canon list around 100 AD, and it was Genesis to Malachi. This is the primary canon.

Yes the secondary canon is hidden but hidden does not mean myth/ pseudepigrapha/ fake/forgery/ lie it just means it is for people that choose to believe the bible wherever it may lead otherwise maybe God thought it would be throwing pearl before swine to reference it in very obvious ways.

This concept of 2 canons in the NT goes back to 2 Esdras (internal date 557-457 BC consistent with 1 Ezra, and same genealogies as 1 Ezra which go back to Aaron son of Levi) where Ezra, and some others rewrite the bible because it was destroyed by the Babylonians

2 Esdras 14
44 So in forty days, ninety-four books were written. 45 It came to pass, when the forty days were fulfilled, that the Most High spoke to me, saying, “The first books that you have written, publish openly, and let the worthy and unworthy read them; 46but keep the last seventy,that you may deliver them to those who are wise among your people; 47 for in them is the spring of understanding, the fountain of wisdom, and the stream of knowledge.” 48 I did so.

The 24 was for the worthy, and unworthy aka everyone- this would of been the now protestant canon from Genesis to Ezra (Malachi, and Nehemiah may not of been written at that time as they came a bit later on in the 400s BC), and the other 70 was 1 Enoch, Jubilees, Test of the 12, Life of Adam, and Eve, Assumption of Moses, Testament of Job, Tobit, Baruch, other ones that still exist today, and some others that would be lost works today. For the NT it would be proto James, pseudo Mathew, gospel of Nicodemus, Didache, History of Joseph the carpenter, and some others. The expanded canon is only for the wise.

2, and 3 Enoch, and book of Jasher are all myths not inspired written after 70 AD (inspired scripture stopped 70 AD based on Daniel 9). 3 Enoch, and Jasher are Jewish fables (1 Titus 14), and 2 Enoch is either Jewish or Samaritan fables.

Jasher says Shem is Melchizadek like the Talmud does in an attempt to discredit Jesus from being a priest in the order of Melchizadek. 2 Enoch mentions the 532 year great cycle which was not discovered until 400s AD. 3 Enoch says It was written by 'rabbi' Ishmael which the Talmud says was 130 AD however the synagogue of satan actually believe it is pseudepigrapha written much later.


Jubilees internally is written by Moses 1400 BC same time as the torah is internally which was after they came out of Egypt but before they came into Canaan. The Israelites had a choice at this time- follow God or idol worship- they chose idol worship - Moses comes back down from the mountain with the law on tablets, they are worshipping a golden calf, he breaks the tablets thinking why should I even bother. Had they stayed faithful to God they would of seen the 364 day calendar in Jubilees (and 1 Enoch) is the one that God wanted them to follow, and they would of done that but because of their apostasy they just followed the torah one which was luni-solar (ask chat GPT for the details). The Qumran dead sea scroll sect 150 BC-68 AD started to go back to those old books, and thinking this is what God intended for us originally lets follow it. Hebrew roots movement lol. There are a couple of prophecies about Jesus in Jubilees.



1 Enoch internally is written by Enoch 7th from Adam pre flood- it contains I Enoch, and I saw statements many time. Also one section is written by Noah as he says my great grandfather Enoch; Noah was Enochs great grandson, and Lamech or Methusaleh wrote a section too; it mentions my father or grandfather. Not a single part of 1 Enoch claims to be written after the flood, and there is nothing in it that is evidence that any part of it was written after the flood. There is nothing in the dead sea scrolls saying "we wrote this text at this time, and backdated it". It has a lot of prophecies about Jesus in it. Ask chat GPT to show all the prophecies of Jesus in 1 Enoch. All Israelites BC that had read it believed it was written pre flood, same as all Christians pre 70 AD believed the same. By 400 AD Christians started to believe it was pseudepigrapha. Likely the synagogue of satan started attacking 1 Enoch after 70 AD saying it was not written pre flood, it can't be, it is too old, Noah did not take it aboard the ark, the flood was a myth anyway, etc etc because of the son of man prophecies it contains - the high priest went ballistic when Jesus called himself the son of man LOL. Sadly early Christians believed satans lies like Adam, and Eve believed the devils lies. The lie continues today taught at all universities around the world, in all studies, and in all textbooks.


Testament of the 12 patriarchs internally is written by the 12 patriarchs 1700s-1800s BC. In one part it says "so it is written in the law of Mose" but by the time the 12 are dead Moses was not even born yet so has been edited a bit later, and someone added that. That part does not claim to be said or written by one of the 12 so there is no problem there. Has some very specific prophecies about Jesus, and warnings about alcohol, greed, lust.


Assumption of Moses internally written by Moses, Joshua, and maybe someone else. Is Moses dying words to Joshua. Has a paraphrased version of 1 Enoch 1:1-9 about the first century AD, also prophecy about Jesus Assyrian, and Babylonian judgment on the Israelites. Says to store the books of their fathers in earthenware Jars; the dead sea scrolls which are the books going back to Moses fathers shown above were found in earthenware jars. So Moses told them to do that 1400 BC but they didn't do it until 300 BC in the DSS. Probably had the part Jude says about the devil, and Michael the angel disputing over Moses body which is in the Assumption of Moses but was restored from early Christian writings as it is not in the Assumption of Moses manuscripts from 600 BC

Some NT ones
Gospel of Nicodemus
History of Joseph the carpenter
Proto James all internally written before 70 AD therefore inspired scripture (Daniel 9 said vision and prophecy would stop 70 AD aka inspired scripture). All explain Joseph was widowed from a prior marriage, was forced to marry 12-14 yo Mary (Roman marriage was 12 for women 14 for men ), and Jesus 4 brothers, and 2 sisters were his step siblings. Joseph never had sex with Mary. Mary was a virgin her whole life; Catholics are right even though they view those texts as pseudepigrapha.

All those and more are free audiobook on youtube or annas archive internet archive are e book websites. Or google the name of the book with PDF after it.

I didn't realise I posted something like this already

Maria Billingsley said:

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Im glad you did. The Apocrypha is largely considered uninspired because its books were written during the Intertestamental Period, after the cessation of recognized prophecy, and they were never accepted into the authoritative Hebrew canon (the Tanakh) by the Jewish people, which further implies a lack of divine, prophetic authority. Additionally, the book of Malachi sets the stage: for silence.....

“Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD. And he will turn the hearts of the fathers to the children, and the hearts of the children to their fathers, lest I come and strike the earth with a curse.” (Malachi 4:5–6, NKJV)

....with the historical account from Macabees confirmation:

"So there was great distress in Israel, such as had not been since the time that prophets ceased to appear among them."

We should define what is considered " inspired ". There is a criteria;

For the Old Testament, the traditional key criterion for canonicity and inspiration was the author being a recognized prophet or messenger of God, often referred to as prophetic authority. This is why books are commonly attributed to Moses (a prophet) and the named prophets like Isaiah and Jeremiah, as well as figures like King David (whose Psalms are considered prophetic) and King Solomon (wisdom books), all of whom were considered God's spokesmen in some capacity. The overall acceptance of the text by the Jewish community as divinely authoritative was also essential.


Thanks for sharing!

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With the so called deuterocanonical books which got their name from Martin Luther which took them out of their normal place in the vulgate, and LXX and put them between Malachi ,and the NT
Wisdom of Solomon internally written by Solomon in the 900s BC
Baruch, 1 Esdras, Additions to Daniel all internally written in the 500s BC
Judith internally written in the 400s BC (maybe 300s BC)
1/2/3 Maccabees no internal date but the studies date them to 100 BC which I agree with
Additions to Esther 400s BC
Sirach 180 BC
So a lot internally are not written between Malachi, and the NT
Psalms of Solomon (not the normal ones in the bible) internally is written between 48 BC, and 1 AD, and has a prophecy about Jesus so is claiming inspiration.
Esther contains no prophecies at all, and most Christians believe it is inspired.
1/2 Maccabees has angels prayers mentions of Moses etc but also no prophecies. Something can be inspired, and written only as a historical book with no prophecies.
That is the whole point of the post. If someone still rejects these books after reading what I wrote then these books are not for them, and God has hidden them from them. Stop depending on third parties to tell you what is inspired, and what is not. The only way to know about them is read or listen on audiobook, and evaluate the internal contents of the book oneself.

Maria Billingsley said:

Yes, and Jesus Christ of Nazareth called them out for it as an error.
Thanks for sharing.

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He never once called someone out in error for quoting a book outside Genesis - Malachi. Jude quotes 1 Enoch 7th from Adam which I made a post about. He uses 1 Enoch to tell the Sadducees they are ignorant of the scriptures also, And there are quotes of other "deuterocanonical" books in the NT but if someone does not believe the internal dates of the texts they can just say the books were written after Jesus, and the author inserted NT quotes in it to deceive future readers to make it look like they were written before, and the NT is quoting them.

Valletta said:

Actually at the time of Christ different groups of Jews recognized different lists of books as Holy Scripture. In the second century A.D. the Pharisees limited the Hebrew Canon to Books written in Hebrew before 400 B.C. The Pharisees also rejected the Greek Septuagint, they claimed that Christians had corrupted those books. The Catholic Church chose all 73 books of the Bible, that includes the Deuterocanonicals (which you call Apocrypha) and maintain the Apostles taught from the Greek Septuagint and that Jews who rejected the Gospels, had even rejected Christ, had no authority to set the OT canon. During the Reformation Luther was able to get some, but not all of the books he wanted dropped from the 73 book canon. Protestants did keep 66 of the books chosen by the Catholic Church and also keep the order of books chosen by the Catholic Church.

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amen good comment

Maria Billingsley said:

Lets keep the context of the conversation, claiming that there exists " inspired" texts outside the Tannak and New Testament.

This is the comment I am referring to:

"Actually at the time of Christ different groups of Jews recognized different lists of books as Holy Scripture. "

This is what Jesus Christ of Nazareth said about traditions of men:

Mark 7:8-9, 13 (NKJV):
“For laying aside the commandment of God, you hold the tradition of men—the washing of pitchers and cups, and many other such things you do.” He said to them, “All too well you reject the commandment of God, that you may keep your tradition. ... making the word of God of no effect through your tradition which you have handed down. And many such things you do.”

Matthew 22:29 (NKJV):
> “Jesus answered and said to them, ‘You are mistaken, not knowing the Scriptures nor the power of God.’

During His ministry, Christ Jesus challenged Jewish leaders who derived their authority from sources beyond the established written Tannak. The primary target of His condemnation was the Pharisaic Oral Tradition (the "tradition of the elders"), which they treated as divine law, yet He rebuked them for allowing these man-made rules to nullify the written Word of God (Mark 7:8, 13, NKJV). Separately, groups like the Essenes relied on circulating Apocryphal and Pseudepigraphical books for unique doctrines, while the Sadducees rejected everything but the Torah. By consistently citing and emphasizing the entirety of the written Scriptures and condemning the Sadducees for "not knowing the Scriptures" (Matthew 22:29, NKJV), Jesus fundamentally rejected the legitimacy of any new, non-prophetic authority, be it oral legalism or speculative literature, that attempted to supplant or add to the authority of God's established written revelation.

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Jesus actually quoted 1 Enoch to the Sadducees, and told them they were ignorant of the scriptures (1 Enoch). Also the ystuff up a story in Tobit so Jesus was saying they were ignorant of that too.
Mark 7 explains what one of the traditions of the elders was- saying they devote their money to God therefore can't help their parents with it. Jesus said based on the law of Moses you should be KILLED for this. Traditions of the elders was not referring to 1 enoch or Jubilees or test of the 12 or any other inspired non pseudepigraphal books. There is no such thing as biblical pseudepigrapha as far as I know. There is no evidence of any anyway. The pharisees focused on the letter of the law and neglected the spirit of the law the 2 great commandments and mercy justice compassian. tithing spices was not in the written torah but Jesus had no problem with it as long as they followed the spirit of the law as stated.

Maria Billingsley said:

Scholars generally disagree that Jesus directly quoted 1Enoch. While His statement about the resurrected being "like angels in heaven" (Matthew 22:30) is conceptually similar to passages in First Enoch (1 Enoch 15:6-7), it is not an exact quotation. Jesus referred to the canonical Old Testament as "the Scriptures" when correcting the Sadducees, not First Enoch, which was not part of the Jewish canon.

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When you say scholars you are referring to a mythological group of people that are always right, and never wrong. Ask chat GPT explain the myth of "scholars say". I believe Jesus is referencing 1 Enoch, and calling it scripture. The main canon of the Israelites/Judeans was Genesis to Malachi Based on Jesus (Law Psalms Prophets quote), Josephus, and 2 Esdras but Jude clearly had 1 Enoch in his mental canon with his Enoch 7th from Adam quote. Abraham read Enoch to people in Egypt (Genesis apocryphon). Levi handed Enochs writings down to his children (one of the DSS). God never intended 1 Enoch to be in the main canon because swine laugh at it, and God does not throw pearl before swine. 1 Enoch, and other books are only for the wise so not you.