• Starting today August 7th, 2024, in order to post in the Married Couples, Courting Couples, or Singles forums, you will not be allowed to post if you have your Marital status designated as private. Announcements will be made in the respective forums as well but please note that if yours is currently listed as Private, you will need to submit a ticket in the Support Area to have yours changed.

  • CF has always been a site that welcomes people from different backgrounds and beliefs to participate in discussion and even debate. That is the nature of its ministry. In view of recent events emotions are running very high. We need to remind people of some basic principles in debating on this site. We need to be civil when we express differences in opinion. No personal attacks. Avoid you, your statements. Don't characterize an entire political party with comparisons to Fascism or Communism or other extreme movements that committed atrocities. CF is not the place for broad brush or blanket statements about groups and political parties. Put the broad brushes and blankets away when you come to CF, better yet, put them in the incinerator. Debate had no place for them. We need to remember that people that commit acts of violence represent themselves or a small extreme faction.

Rome’s Failure to Correct Germany’s Bishops has Emboldened Their Pro-LGBT Agenda

Michie

Well-Known Member
Site Supporter
Feb 5, 2002
185,587
68,222
Woods
✟6,167,066.00
Country
United States
Gender
Female
Faith
Catholic
Marital Status
Married
Politics
US-Others

As the country’s bishops issue a new document encouraging diversity of sexual identities in Catholic schools, German Catholic sociologist Gabriele Kuby explains the full extent of the crisis.​


A recently published document from the German bishops encouraging Catholic school pupils to self-identify according to their “sexual identity” is the latest significant departure of the bishops’ conference from the Church’s teaching, re-igniting talk of a possible new, German-born schism.

The “orientation aid,” published on Oct. 30, states that Catholic schools should consider “diversity of sexual identities is a fact,” effectively normalizing any pupil to self-identify as lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, intersex and non‑binary.

Teachers are further encouraged to use language that reflects “the diversity of sexual identities,” and are advised to present questions of sexual morality as “disputed,” allowing students to form their own judgments.

Only three German bishops have so far publicly voiced their opposition to the document: Bishops Stefan Oster of Passau and Rudolf Voderholzer of Regensburg, and Cardinal Rainer Maria Woelki, Archbishop of Cologne.

The Vatican has, at least in its teaching documents, been clear about its opposition to this “gender theory” approach, describing it as an ideology that denies the created difference of man and woman, and that undermines the anthropological basis of the family.

German Catholic sociologist Gabriele Kuby, a respected expert on the scourge of gender theory, believes this latest act of German episcopal dissent from the Magisterium is, to a large extent, a consequence of Vatican inaction against the German bishops.

In the following excerpt of an interview published in the latest edition of The Academy Review of the John Paul II Academy for Human Life and the Family (JAHLF), Kuby explains in illuminating detail the extent of the crisis related to the German episcopate which, aided by their 2019-2023 Synodal Path, has attempted to impose a change in the Church’s teaching on sexual morality, introduce liturgical blessings for same-sex couples, and is now trying to normalise sexual diversity identities.

Continued below.
 

Cosmic Charlie

The reports of my death are greatly exaggerated
Oct 14, 2003
15,832
2,496
✟113,037.00
Country
United States
Faith
Catholic
Marital Status
Married
You guys gotta help me here.

I read the article.

What is the crisis ? I'm serious.

Maybe as an American my "crisis" threshold has gone up but...

.... I see a Theological disagreement and a lot of talk about Islam (which I thought was weird given the topic of the article). But I honestly don't a crisis.

What am I missing ?
 
Upvote 0

RileyG

Veteran
Christian Forums Staff
Moderator Trainee
Hands-on Trainee
Angels Team
Site Supporter
Feb 10, 2013
38,935
22,248
30
Nebraska
✟896,046.00
Country
United States
Gender
Male
Faith
Catholic
Marital Status
Celibate
Politics
US-Republican
You guys gotta help me here.

I read the article.

What is the crisis ? I'm serious.

Maybe as an American my "crisis" threshold has gone up but...

.... I see a Theological disagreement and a lot of talk about Islam (which I thought was weird given the topic of the article). But I honestly don't a crisis.


What am I missing ?
A possible schism is always a crisis. That would be my main concern for the salvation of souls.
 
Upvote 0