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There's an aspect of Islam that separates it from the other Abrahamic religions... and it's one that people rarely talk about (amid the bickering of "whose book technically has the most violent verse in it", "who did the most recent thing that could be construed as terrorism", etc...)

And that is, Islam (via the texts) also act as a political prescription.

While the other 2 certainly have verses that could potentially influence how a person may vote, that's different from being the aforementioned political prescription.

Early Islamic texts (Quran and Hadith) contain structures and policy guidelines on inheritance, contract enforcement, taxation, warfare, judicial procedure, wealth distribution, and governance.
Sorry. I'm fairly certain much of this is laid out for Judaism as well.
 
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If only you could just be allowed to be an a-hole in America, then America would be a better place.
You're allowed to call the Catholic Church the W.... of Babylon. You shouldn't go to jail for that. That does actually make America a better place. And I'm Catholic.

Not to mention these things have been spouted off at Masses by protesters many times in the past, on private property, inside the Church, and still nobody called for "hate crime" charges.
 
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Sorry. I'm fairly certain much of this is laid out for Judaism as well.
To the same degree?

Keeping in mind, Muhammed himself was a political leader with territorial ambitions.

And the integration of the two concepts (religion and politics) was there right from the get go.

Along with prescriptions for how to infiltrate and overtake new territories, and govern them (including what to do with non-Believers who were already there)

For example, the dhimmi status. Where in a Muslim conquered territory, "people of the book" could be allowed to maintain their religion in exchange for a fee/tax known as jizya.
 
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